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To: DiogenesLamp

Bingo!


1,381 posted on 10/10/2016 12:54:27 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1
Bingo!

Thank you. I think it eloquently summed up the arguing points of our opposition. They want us to focus on slavery, because the truth is very very ugly.

The influential people of the North were worse than slave holders. They were murderers who willingly traded hundreds of thousands of people's lives for money and power.

Someone just posted this on another website I frequent. For the astute among us, the parallels are easily discernible.

https://youtu.be/rOuLkfJjtgQ

I urge all to consider what this man points out. I'm not saying I agree with him, but he makes a powerful argument.

1,383 posted on 10/10/2016 1:01:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Enlightened1 referring to DL's map: "Bingo!"

You know, if you wished to argue that the Confederacy started and declared war on the United States in order to grab its "fair share" of the loot shown sitting on the map at New York, I'd go along with that... somewhat.

But I wouldn't overemphasize it, to the exclusion of all other reasons, because that's not what people said at the time.
Confederate leaders like SC Governor Pickens and Jefferson Davis said they were first and foremost concerned about enforcing their sovereignty over Fort Sumter, and in showing the South's superiority by giving the Union a bloody nose there.

In his response, Lincoln said nothing about New York trade or tariffs, but rather called for 75,000 troops to reoccupy the Federal properties unlawfully seized by secessionists.

1,418 posted on 10/12/2016 9:39:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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