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To: jmacusa
jmacusa: " It would have to have been a very resounding military defeat, such that the Union Army would never be able to rise.
But the South was deluding itself before the first shot was fired."

Modern historians are more critical of RE Lee generally and at Gettysburg specifically than previous generations were.
It's said that Lee wasted manpower the Confederacy could ill-afford when he would have been better off to fight a much more defensive war.
I think that's a big maybe, since Gettysburg was Lee's last big opportunity to make a war-winning stroke, and he couldn't do otherwise.

Indeed, had the Union army proved as feckless at Gettysburg as it had previously, there's no reason to think Lee couldn't defeat them decisively.
And I'm certain that's what Lee was counting on.
But Lee made mistakes, many of which we can easily recite, and the Union Army made far fewer.
So Lee's last opportunity for victory was gone, though it took almost two more years for the dumb*sses to figure that out.

1,285 posted on 10/04/2016 2:33:36 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Had Lee and Davis had given more thought to a political stalemate Lee could have surrounded Washington, the Union's nerve center he could have captured Lincoln and his cabinet and would have created on hell of a hostage standoff.
1,287 posted on 10/04/2016 2:48:24 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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