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To: BroJoeK
More like the Race Obsessed Liberal Lawyer President from Illinois made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Indeed, i've been looking at Illinois politics of that era. Apparently Illinois has always been a criminally minded cesspool of corruption and extortion.

Same then as now.

1,190 posted on 10/01/2016 3:18:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp referring to Horace Greeley's "flip" on secession: "More like the Race Obsessed Liberal Lawyer President from Illinois made him an offer he couldn't refuse."

Naw, you don't understand Greeley, who was a... ah, complicated man.
Before the war, Greeley was a staunch abolitionist who wanted no compromises over slavery in the western territories.
During the Civil War Greely was a Radical Republican highly critical of Lincoln and opposed to Lincoln's renomination in 1864.

So after the election, in late 1860, Greeley's "let them go" position was intended to stiffen-up weak Republicans who were over-eager to compromise with Southern slaveocrats in order to preserve the Union.
Greeley was saying: don't compromise, if need be, let them go.

Once they did go, then Greeley's views changed to maintain a hard line against the Confederacy, including after Fort Sumter, Civil War.
Here is a brief review of this topic:

So Horace Greeley and his New York Tribune were, ah, "complicated", but there's no evidence he was ever afraid of Lincoln, or afraid to put his thoughts in print.

1,220 posted on 10/02/2016 12:13:14 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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