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To: jmacusa
Cut the crap sonny. The man is handing your head to you and he’s making you look more like the fool you are.

No my friend, he's posting a large and constant stream of unrelated facts that are irrelevant to the points being made. This is a well known fallacy debate tactic, and one which I don't feel is worthy of a response.

He cannot "spin" the truth away. New York was bringing in 200 million / year from Southern products, while the entire Union was producing only 78 million in export value.

The export value of the Southern trade was almost three times that of the Northern production. Talking about railroads and ports and comparing Sumter to Pearl Harbor are all irrelevant to that essential fact.

The North Eastern part of the nation (Where the Wealthy elite lived) badly needed that money stream produced by Southern products, and it was more than sufficient cause to induce them to start a war to get that money back.

The war was started over Money. That which was lost by the New York Power Broker elite (same people controlling us now) and would have been gained by the Southerners had their efforts to become independent remained successful.

You just don't like the fact that your ancestors assisted in the subjugation and oppression of others for a vile cause, and so you and others glom on to the issue of slavery in the manner a drowning man clings to a life preserver, for indeed, that long after the fact "change", is the only justification you have for murdering so many people who just wanted to be free of the Washington and the New York power brokers who were controlling their lives. (Same people who are controlling our lives today.)

1,153 posted on 09/27/2016 6:03:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

You moron, my ancestors fought for the Union, not the South. You dont have the good sense to know you’re an idiot defending a lost and evil cause. Remember this: The South started the war and lost. Your side lost.


1,154 posted on 09/27/2016 7:36:58 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; jmacusa
DiogenesLamp: "You just don't like the fact that your ancestors assisted in the subjugation and oppression of others for a vile cause, and so you and others glom on to the issue of slavery in the manner a drowning man clings to a life preserver, for indeed...etc., etc."

Total cockamamie nonsense.

1,208 posted on 10/01/2016 6:35:40 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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