Let me make this clear to you, the more significant issue of the Civil War was whether or not the Rights articulated in the Declaration of Independence exist and are fundamental or not.
The Slavery issue we no longer have with us, but the Right of Self Determination is still wanting for a final answer.
The Question is, do you believe in Despotism or not? We are all currently slaves to the Washington/New York power corridor, and if you don't recognize that, you are a fool. The current course we are following will take us into economic and social collapse, and the masters of the nation will insist that we remain, like galley slaves , until we hit that crash.
The idea that we could strike out on our own and avoid the financial meltdown which the New York/DC power brokers have set in motion, was murdered by the false assertions used to legitimizing the Civil War. (Which was really a war about greed.)
If you are talking about Slavery instead of the right of self determination, you are focusing on the red herring and not the moral issue which truly mattered in the longer sweep of history.
You have been gulled into selling your birthright for a Mess of Pottage.
Let me make this clear to you, that's insane.
The more significant issue in 1861 was whether Fire Eaters in Deep South states wishing to protect slavery could win that on the battlefield after provoking, starting, declaring & prosecuting war against the United States.
In 1865 the world learned the answer was: not "no" but "h*ll no!".
The Declaration of Independence does not suggest an unlimited "right" to at pleasure arbitrarily declare secession from lawful, constitutional government.
DiogenesLamp: "The Slavery issue we no longer have with us, but the Right of Self Determination is still wanting for a final answer."
Two key terms on this issue our Founders all accepted were: "mutual consent" and "necessary".
Disunion could be by "mutual consent" of the states and/or when made "necessary" by unlawful government behavior.
Neither condition existed in 1860 and so Deep South Fire Eaters' declarations of secession were unconstitutional, period.
This combined with their provocations, starting, declaring and prosecuting war on the United States made their destruction "necessary" by "mutual consent".
DiogenesLamp: "The Question is, do you believe in Despotism or not?
We are all currently slaves to the Washington/New York power corridor, and if you don't recognize that, you are a fool."
Of course, but we are not talking about today, we are talking about 1860 when Fire Eaters began declaring secession "at pleasure", then provoked, started, declared and prosecuted war against the United States.
Today's situation is very different and so your "slavery" term is only valid metaphorically, or by analogy, certainly not literally in the sense of 1860's slavery.
Further there is zero possibility -- none, nada -- that states will begin declaring 1860 style secession.
What could well happen is a new constitutional convention of states which could, in due time, place stricter limits on Federal powers, or concurrently grant states greater authority against Federal encroachments.
But I'd think that somewhat unlikely so long as the progressive agenda continues to dominate majority thinking around the country.
Your alternative, DiogenesLamp, is simply to leave this country for some other you find more compatible with your own beliefs.
And since you seem such a devoted Marxist historian, may I suggest places where Marx is still held in high esteem -- oh, how about North Korea just for example?
;-)
DiogenesLamp: "...murdered by the false assertions used to legitimizing the Civil War. (Which was really a war about greed.)
If you are talking about Slavery instead of the right of self determination, you are focusing on the red herring and not the moral issue which truly mattered in the longer sweep of history.
You have been gulled into selling your birthright for a Mess of Pottage."
And you, good sir, are a raving lunatic utterly devoted to falsifying history to support your current insanities.
The fact is the past is the past, and back then the issue for Deep South Fire Eaters was protecting slavery, nothing else worth mentioning.
If there were other advantages to secession, no doubt they were considered helpful, but the issue forcing secession was only slavery.