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Trump affirms backing gun ban for those on terror watch list
Washington Examiner ^ | June 18, 2016 | John Siciliano

Posted on 06/18/2016 8:56:11 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen

Donald Trump reaffirmed his stance on restricting individuals on the terror watch list from being able to purchase firearms, despite Republican objections.

"We have to make sure that people that are terrorists or have even an inclination toward terrorism cannot buy weapons, guns," Trump told ABC's White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl in an interview that will air Sunday on "This Week."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: DavidLSpud

No-Fly List

It has also raised concerns about privacy and government secrecy. It has also been criticized as costly, prone to false positives, and easily defeated.
The No Fly List is different from the Terrorist Watch List, a much longer list of people said to be suspected of some involvement with terrorism. As of June 2016 the Terrorist Watch List is estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities.[2][3]

In mid-December 2001, two lists were created: the “No Fly List” of 594 people to be denied air transport, and the “Selectee” list of 365 people who were to be more carefully searched at airports.[4][5] By 2002, the two lists combined contained over a thousand names, and by April 2005 contained about 70,000 names.[4] For the first two and a half years of the program, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Transportation Security Administration (TSA) denied that the program existed.[4]
The No Fly List program came to public light “when prominent antiwar activists, such as Jan Adams and Rebecca Gordan, and political opponents of the Bush administration, such as Senator Edward Kennedy and the civil rights attorney David Cole, found themselves included.”[4] In October 2006, CBS News’s 60 Minutes reported on the program after it obtained a March 2006 copy of the list containing 44,000 names.[6]
Many individuals were “caught in the system” as a result of sharing the exact or similar name of another person on the list;[7] TSA officials said that, as of November 2005, 30,000 people in 2005 had complained that their names were matched to a name on the list via the name matching software used by airlines.[8] In January 2006, the FBI and ACLU settled a federal lawsuit, Gordon v. FBI, brought by Gordon and Adams under the Freedom of Information Act in order to obtain information about how names were added to the list.[8] Under the settlement, the government paid $200,000 in the plaintiffs’ attorneys’ fees.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List

No problems...just put your “political opponents”...Christian trouble makers...Three Percenters

Free Republic members, Islam haters etc., etc. on the list.


41 posted on 06/18/2016 9:27:01 PM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: ConservativeTeen

On the surface this sounds right to most people. I would expect Trump to keep going, though, and at some point ask why this or that person is on such a list. Omar wasn’t.


42 posted on 06/18/2016 9:27:10 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: okie01

See my #35. If this “watch list” wasn’t being administered by the completely inept and corrupt Obama Administration, it might be a valuable tool.

You expect your candidate, Hillary, to do better?


43 posted on 06/18/2016 9:27:54 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far.)
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To: JennysCool
JennysCool said: "If the “watch list” was administered competently, by good minds, "

Gee...Sounds kinda like that "due process" thingy.

44 posted on 06/18/2016 9:28:52 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: okie01

Things that we might even tolerate under a GWB or a Donald Trump, would become utter nightmares under a Clinton or an Obama.

But anyhow. I expect Trump will get vigorous push back about this one.


45 posted on 06/18/2016 9:30:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kiryandil

Are you trying to make me go blind! :)

Had my face up to the screen.

What is a terror list? If these people are that kind of danger, why aren’t they deported?

What puts them on that list?

And who decides?

Deport all muzzies and get rid of the terror watch list.


46 posted on 06/18/2016 9:30:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

And the home grown ones like Mateen would still be untouched.


47 posted on 06/18/2016 9:31:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: William Tell

Well, yes, that, to keep the lawyers fat and happy, which is what I assume you meant by that.


48 posted on 06/18/2016 9:31:13 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

This, of course, sets the stage for a massive, future class action suit based on profiling,


49 posted on 06/18/2016 9:32:18 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Reno89519

There shouldn’t have to be a list in the first place. If we can’t trust them to be on a plane they should never have been allowed in in the first place. If they are criminals, they should be charged. If they’re guilty, convict them.


50 posted on 06/18/2016 9:32:24 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: sargon

Congress? having the people’s backs? Since when?


51 posted on 06/18/2016 9:32:30 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: ConservativeTeen
I have a better idea:

1. The U.S. should declare WAR on ISIS

2. Impose a ban on ALL Muslims from entry into the United States from Sharia countries, as Sharia Law is A THREAT TO AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

3. Since war on ISIS has been declared, American-citizen ISIS-sympathizers in the U.S. should be detained as ENEMY COMBATANTS and housed in GITMO.

4. Non-American-citizen ISIS-supporters should be DEPORTED and barred future entry into the United States

5. 2nd Amendment rights, NOT INFRINGED, remain in effect for ALL AMERICANS as they have been for over 200 YEARS.

Maybe this needs a little work, but it's a start.

52 posted on 06/18/2016 9:32:55 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

The idea is not to let terrorists into the country in the first place.


53 posted on 06/18/2016 9:33:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JennysCool

I would support it if the bill for the law had a rider requiring all voters to have an ID and citizenship papers.


54 posted on 06/18/2016 9:34:00 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (President Trump: It's all over but the counting)
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To: ConservativeTeen

this is not good.


55 posted on 06/18/2016 9:34:26 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: OldNewYork

This is about a “terrorist watch list” not even the smaller “no fly list.”

I would posit that it makes more sense to have such purchases quietly trigger a closer watch, than to stop them.


56 posted on 06/18/2016 9:34:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kiryandil
Stop the ad hominem garbage. Defend your candidate, if you can, instead of attacking the messenger.
57 posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:24 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: ConservativeTeen

There are some people incompatible with American citizenship and if you can’t purge them from the country for some strange reason, at least try to prevent them from carrying out paradise-seeking massacres of other Americans. I really don’t think the Founders would have had much of a dilemma on their hands about this. They’ve conditioned us to become paralyzed by dilemmas.

All dilemmas happen by a false premise being accepted by someone.


58 posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:30 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I have an even BETTER idea. How about Trump leave 2A AS IT IS?


59 posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:37 PM PDT by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I have an even BETTER idea. How about Trump leave 2A AS IT IS?


60 posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:37 PM PDT by txhurl (Chode: a word about taglines)
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