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It is truly a monumental task to educate, dare I even say, re-educate, a person who has, no doubt, gone to all the right schools, got all the right credentials, enjoys a position of influence, and yet is so utterly wrong in her understanding. She claims in the title that she is going to compare Christianity to Islam, and then proceeds only to talk about the actions of people either she identifies or who self-identify as Christian and the actions of those who she identifies or who self-identify as Islamic. What she fails to do is examine what exactly the New Testament teaches about the nature of Christianity and what exactly the Koran teaches about the nature of Islam. So, about all she has managed to do is assemble the usual examples - read: BAD - of those who have claimed to carry out the precepts of Christianity as they understood them.
1 posted on 06/16/2016 9:32:42 AM PDT by Belteshazzar
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Just as I suspected, another liberal self loathing Jew.

She might as well write for the New York Slimes. She’ll fit right in.


26 posted on 06/16/2016 9:50:56 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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No religion is inherently violent.

27 posted on 06/16/2016 9:52:52 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Julia has obviously never read the Koran


30 posted on 06/16/2016 9:58:12 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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B'shazzar, my friend, you're right. And even better, is to directly compare the founders, Muhammad and Jesus Christ. A more dramatic display of opposites can scarcely be imagined.Z

Yes, there have been aggressive, even murderous Christians. A study of history will make this sickeningly clear. But here's the difference: as Christians become more devout and more Christ-like, they become morally better and better: even to the extent of the seemingly humanly impossible, loving their enemies. As Muslims become more devout and more "Mohammedan," --- more like their founder --- they become morally worse and worse.

There are certainly morally upright Muslims who have been loving God and other people their whole lives. I know some. Let's keep that in mind. But if they begin to actually take the Koran, the Hadith, Shari'a and Jihad seriously --- if they come to take their "ideal man," Muhammad, seriously --- they are on the path to the demonic and are a menace to a just and peaceable society.

32 posted on 06/16/2016 9:59:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If they live by the Koran, I don't want them to live by me.)
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No religion is inherently violent. No religion is inherently peaceful. RL

Utter CRAP!

If all the people in the world conducted themselves in their lives as Jesus did in His WHAT WOULD THE WORLD BE LIKE?

Conversely if all the people in the world conducted themselves as muhammad did during his life...what would the world be like?


34 posted on 06/16/2016 10:01:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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He’s absolutely right! Just look at all the mosques being burned by Christians; the Muslims being beheaded; the gay people being thrown off buildings by Christians; the Christian suicide bombers and those stabbing defenseless Jews. Need I go on...?


36 posted on 06/16/2016 10:04:51 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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Christian violence against gays:


Refused to issue a "marriage" license to gays who could not legally marry under her state's laws


Refused to bake a custom wedding cake for gays who could not legally marry in their state


Refused to host a gay "wedding" at their home, which also served as a B&B

This week's Islamic violence against gays:


Shot over 100 gay people and pledged allegiance to ISIS

Anyone sane would recognize the false comparison. The word "violence" is used very differently when describing violent Christians than when describing violent Muslims.

37 posted on 06/16/2016 10:05:13 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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You have to make this argument from a perspective that allows for a certain fudging of the facts. Take out the "inherently" and the "historically" from the argument if you want to live in the real, present-day world. Muslims are killing people in droves. Christians aren't. That is an observable fact. There really is a problem there, and its name is Islam.

The author is perfectly correct in that one can find violence in the behavior of the followers even of Buddhism if one looks hard enough. It's also entirely irrelevant.

39 posted on 06/16/2016 10:06:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yes, because fundamentalist Christian terrorist bombings, suicide bomber attacks, and vicious Christian terrorist groups killing non-Christians, are just reeking havoc in the middle east, and the world today......


41 posted on 06/16/2016 10:06:45 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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I read this and said the same thing you did. How does one educate anyone on understanding what the Bible says and the transformation that happened after the Cross and after Saul became Paul. The New Testament and the Old Testament gets combined/confused/misread by those who want to find criticism in what a Christian believes... and to excuse all the other “religions” that are not actually religions as we speak of Christianity.

It’s an argument for those who do not want to understand... for “man believes what man wants to be true”. The left and most of the world HATE Christians... for they are different in ways that they can’t tolerate. obama brings in “refugees” that are NOT Christian. The disdain for a Christian is about as strong as it was for those who crucified Jesus. They could not stand someone who could perform miracles, when they could not. They could not stand for a man to say He was The Christ. They were the kings and the high priests.. how dare this man say he was the King of Kings.

The hatred is coming from the left.. from non Christians ... you won’t find Christians in riots, or attacking innocent people.

And .... Someone isn’t a Christian by just saying he is.. and that is in those lefty arguments.. it doesn’t hold water though. A Christian is a follower and doer of Jesus Christ.


42 posted on 06/16/2016 10:07:23 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Belteshazzar; Biggirl; E. Pluribus Unum; The_Media_never_lie; G Larry; Lurkinanloomin; ...
Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam?
by Raymond Ibrahim
Middle East Quarterly | Summer 2009

43 posted on 06/16/2016 10:08:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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Nonsense


44 posted on 06/16/2016 10:09:52 AM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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It’s not a religion. It’s a political system. “Kill all the Christians and Jews”, “Submit or Die”....”World Domination”.


45 posted on 06/16/2016 10:12:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Christianity went through it’s reformation and shed its violence.

Christianity is *not* a violent religion, but it will eventually defend itself.


46 posted on 06/16/2016 10:14:53 AM PDT by Fhios (The U.S needs Hillary like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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Julia is Russian Jew who fled to this country.

To me she is a perfect candidate to move to Israel and join those dumb naive Jews who want to get along with Muslims who have a 1400 year history of singling out Jews for killing.

I have read the Christian New Testament twice cover to cover an also read the Muslim Koran and Hadiths (Bukhari version)

I am neither a Muslim or a Christian, but to me there is no comparison to violence between those two religions.

In the Koran and Hadiths Islam resorts to approved violence to get the Muslim message across, .
Christians are not encouraged in the New Testament to do violence to spread Christianity. -Tom

47 posted on 06/16/2016 10:15:50 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Christians spent three centuries being hunted down and killed by Roman and other pagan persecutors. They engaged in prayer, charity, and good works while countless martyrs came from their ranks.

Muslims hit the ground running from the start, slaying everyone they encountered and gobbling up territory. A militaristic excuse for a religion, and it’s been that way for 1,400 years.

The author is full of it. She badly needs a refresher course in 7th-grade world history.


48 posted on 06/16/2016 10:17:18 AM PDT by Deo volente (They want to eradicate us, and will never stop. We need to eradicate them first.)
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April 627 Mohamed directed the massacre of the Jewish tribes in Medina who would not covert to Islam. The women and children were taken as slaves. Mohammad took one Jewish woman as his sex slave.

Please provide even a example where Jesus Christ directed his followers to murder non believers.


49 posted on 06/16/2016 10:19:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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The author would be property in the muslim world and her voice would be silenced.


50 posted on 06/16/2016 10:19:10 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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How many Christians have lopped off heads lately?


51 posted on 06/16/2016 10:20:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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The author is insane.

Jesus: Love your enemies, pray for your persecutors, do good to those who maltreat you.

Mohammed: Slay the infidel wherever you find him.


52 posted on 06/16/2016 10:21:12 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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