[USNBandit]

Everbody talks tough until the bullets start flying. Remember that everything you know about the shooting is through the lens of time and light of day. Even hours after the event was over there were reports the shooter had been wearing a suicide vest. Did the Orlando PD know there was only one shooter? Did they know they hit the guy? Lots of questions that affect the response of the PD.

My biggest question is why you would negotiate for three hours with somebody that you know shot people. I think that specific fact should drive an immediate and violent response. No shooting and a pile of hostages is different. You may not be able to wait for a SWAT response.

[combat_boots]

Where was the wife? The older brother? Who was the ‘random’ guy who held the back door shut with the gay guy?

Where is the older brother now?

[LaRueLaDue]

“My biggest question is why you would negotiate for three hours with somebody that you know shot people. I think that specific fact should drive an immediate and violent response. No shooting and a pile of hostages is different. You may not be able to wait for a SWAT response.”

I strongly agree with your last paragraph. Why would you even think of “negotiating” with someone that you know just killed or wounded an indeterminate number of people, and that there were still people trapped in the building with the shooter. I fail to see how that is acting in the best interests of the remaining people in the building and those that are wounded.

Nuts.