Posted on 06/04/2016 7:40:03 PM PDT by Kaslin
Historical arguments based on fantasy and a desire to present America as a villain have made the use of nuclear weapons to end World War II into a controversy. Ignorance of history is a very dangerous thing.
The President recently visited Hiroshima Japan, site of the first atomic bomb ever used in combat. The bombing took place on August 6th, 1945. It was followed three days later by a second bomb on Nagasaki. Although he was very careful not to explicitly apologize for our use of atomic weapons -- mindful of the harsh backlash that awaited him should his trip be perceived as yet another Obama apology tour -- the tenor of President Obamas remarks left little doubt as to where he stands on the issue.
For years, the estimated death tolls from these two events were put at approximately 70,000 and 45,000 respectively.* However, in recent years these figures have increased dramatically, often being cited as being in excess of 120,000 and 90,000. Perhaps recent historians, equipped with more data, are including the lingering radiation and burn-related deaths that can now be attributed to the initial attacks. Perhaps agenda-driven revisionists -- confident that the earlier numbers will never again come to light -- are simply intentionally exaggerating the casualty numbers for greater emotional impact, in service to an anti-nuclear or anti-American political goal.
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Correction: Link is American Thinker
It doesn’t matter what the death toll really is...They got what they asked for when they started their war with America...
Military planners estimated that there would be upwards of 250,000 US soldiers killed and millions of Japanese killed in an invasion of Japan. Liberals would have us believe that would have been better than ending the war with 2 A bombs.
There was a time when ‘they’ claimed we dropped ‘the big ‘un’ on Japan because they ‘weren’t White’.
Seems the folks in 1945 Dresden would probably not be able to tell the difference.
Liberals are just upset because the bombs kept their beloved Soviet Union out of Japan.
To be fair this needs to be compared with what a bloodbath in a land invasion would look like. Talking an order or two of magnitude more.
And on TOP of that, the cities in the bombed area were already on bombing candidate lists and had been recently leafleted warning people out of them. The bombed area was chosen NOT for its population BUT for its military production. It wasn’t the US’s fault that a Japanese people, packed like sardines in paper houses, ignored the warnings.
Libs said that it only took 3 years to fight wwii.
It was part of the taunt against Bush and the Iraq war.
(A) we could’ve gotten a surrender from Saddam much quicker if we’d dropped 2 atomic bombs
(B) the war against Iraq ended in short order. The terror campaign that followed lasted longer. It would be just as erroneous to say that the civil war in America lasted 100 years because that as the length of the effective power of the terror campaign by the KKK that followed the war.
Don’t ask for consistency or honest debate from libs on atomic warfare.
Better than most articles on the topic.
Japan’s Longest Day —one of the best books on the desperate attempts of the Japanese to end the war in the closing days.
They kept trying to recruit the Soviets as an intermediary in arranging a conditional surrender; they knew that the Yalta Conference required the Soviets to participate in the downfall of Japan within 6 months of Hitler’s fall, so they were curious about what kind of role Stalin might play.
Greedy to get his hands on Japan lands (he captured 2 or their islands, which remain in their hands to this day), Stalin of course SIMPLY DIDN’T CALL BACK. Repeatedly.
So the Japanese could see the writing on the wall —Stalin would let them twist in the wind and if the war went on much longer Soviet troops would likely be on the beaches, somehow, somewhere.
The Americans understood the 6 month clock was running, that the Soviets would get involved, and they wanted to keep them out and avoid the type of cutting-up on Europe that was already going on.
The atomic bombs gave the Americans a way to beat the clock and keep the Soviets out.
The Japanese understood if the Soviets were deeply involved their Emperor would share the fate of the Tsar 30 years earlier.
Technically, it wasn't combat. It was dropped from a plane. First ever used in war.
I’m surprised Stalin didn’t try to keep them on the line longer to try and get his assets into place. Although they were probably stretched pretty thin with everything in Europe and the purges within the Soviet military.
Worth adding to this Discussion: Mike Church did a Great Show on this the other day, Here is some of the material covered: http://www.mikechurch.com/pile-of-prep/wisdom-wednesday-prep-what-really-was-lost-at-hiroshima-nagasaki/
Choose June 1 Segment 1-2 and 3-4 and listen, then ponder, to many fail to think and just react just as they have been programmed to, God gave us free will to Think and Serve Him...
http://veritasradionetwork.com/player/?djpplayer=playlivestream
Were they Leftist or Men in the Know who Held Official Positions and Said it was not necessary?
http://www.filmsforaction.org/news/the-real-reason-america-used-nuclear-weapons-against-japan-it-was-not-to-end-the-war-or-save-lives/
How is Killing Hundreds of Thousands Just War? It is Barbarian and that is something We have forgotten because to many are falling under the spell of Nationalism. Not Good for the Soul!
God Bless
Bkmk
They also conveniently forget to mention that the only President to use atomic weapons was a Democrat...
If he had been a Republican, we would hear or read about it every time Hiroshima was mentioned.
The most devastating air raid in history was done with
conventional weapons
On night of March 9-10 1945, 334 B 29 hit Tokyo. Aided by
strong winds the incendiaries dropped by the bombers burned
out some 16 square miles and left estimated 100,000 people
dead......
For the next 6 months B 29 using incendiary bombs destroyed
60 Japanese cities and left hundreds of thousands dead
or severely injured
Most people have forgotten about this
I am fine with all the bombing on Japan. They started it.
And according to a story related by talk show host several years ago, the U.S. flew to Finland several aircraft similar to the Enola Gay and simply parked them at an airport - in full view of the Soviet Union, implying they had more in their hip pocket. A quiet threat and a major bluff.
Sorry, meant to include the name of the host, Barry Farber.
Yes, they're training with pointed sticks.
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