Posted on 06/04/2016 1:21:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Muhammad Ali, the silver-tongued boxer and civil rights champion who famously proclaimed himself "The Greatest" and then spent a lifetime living up to the billing, is dead.
Ali died Friday at a Phoenix-area hospital, where he had spent the past few days being treated for respiratory complications, a family spokesman confirmed to NBC News. He was 74.
After a 32-year battle with Parkinson's disease, Muhammad Ali has passed away at the age of 74. The three-time World Heavyweight Champion boxer died this evening," Bob Gunnell, a family spokesman, told NBC News.
I heard his IQ was 60 - not documented. But that is probably about right. Amazing that he made his millions.
Perhaps you are correct, but I think your view reduces the man to a caracture of who he was.
“paid the price of his convictions-a heavy price.”
Don’t make me laugh. He had no convictions. He was a draft dodger. Nothing could be more ridiculous than someone who makes his living beating people up claim to be a conscientious objector.
Add to that his becoming a Muslim. Who ever heard of a Muslim pacifist?
Cassius Clay was a POS.
Ali is the greatest fighter of all time because lots of leftwingers (especially ones prominent in the media like Norman Mailer, David Halberstam, etc.) consider their Vietnam war protest years the most exhilarating time of their lives
and, as a result, the fact that Ali mouthed the words supplied to him by his Nation of Islam handlers about the Vietnam war
makes him without question the “greatest fighter of all time.”
Well, White Privilege had to be addressed.
Had he just reported for duty when drafted he would have served as a great inspiration for both black and white young Americans and would have been a real hero. (In addition he most likely never would have seen actual combat anyway.)
Instead he chose the Black Muslim -Malcom X- Louis Farakhan - "Hate America" path and helped to usher in the crap we see today.
The fights that Ali lost are only because he was
Too old
Too young
Too fat
Injured
Didn’t try to win
Was out of shape
Because bad people hated him
Of course, NONE of Ali’s opponents were ever:
Too old
Too young
Too fat
Injured
Didn’t try to win
Out of shape
Had bad people who hated them
God won in the end. By knockout.
BOOM, He always does.
“Don’t make me laugh. He had no convictions. He was a draft dodger. “
He didn’t “dodge the draft.”
He refused to serve in a war he thought was wrong and willingly paid the legal price. To the end of his life he was not bitter about his sentence. A close friend asked him about it and Ali shrugged his shoulders and said, “I did what I had to do and the judge did what he had to do.”
If Ali had gone into the service, he would have fought exhibitions for the troops—as Joe Louis, Billy Conn, Tony Zale did during World War Two.
Addled brained muzzy braggart who beat people up. Nothing to admire that I ever saw.
“He refused to serve in a war he thought was wrong “
Horesh*t.
he did whatever his Nation of Islam handlers directed him to do.
If you were ever around him it was obvious he had the mentality of a child.
“You simply made that up. Proof or it didn’t happen.”
I know nothing about Marvin Stinson, but I do know that Ali spouted all sorts of Nation of Islam racist, anti-semitic nonsense in the 60s and beyond. There’s video for crying out loud showing some of his views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBnc8YNaaQ
Undeniable: http://www.heavyweightblog.com/262/criticizing-muhammad-ali-is-racism
Ali had an IQ of 78. https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Muhammad-Ali-had-an-IQ-of-78 That means he was borderline retarded.
I always knew Ali was a great fighter, but he seemed to be something of a lousy human being who occasionally did something nice for charity. I actually think he became a better person when it became difficult for him to speak - as odd as that may sound.
I could never understand the adulation of Ali. Great fighter? Yeah, his record shows he could do amazing things in the ring (although even there I think his skills are exaggerated). He just wasn’t that great of a man - especially when young. None of us is perfect, but he was a racist scumbag who complained about racism.
Believe as you wish, though I don’t believe you were present in any conversation you claim occurred.
Since the justification of out involvement with in Vietnam was later shown to be false, I don’t quibble with anyone who paid a price legally.
“The Gulf of Tonkin Incidents ... a National Security Agency document declassified in 2005 later revealed that the second attack did not actually occur. Conflict or not, the event resulted in U.S. Congress passing the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which allowed then President Lyndon B. Johnson to intervene in the face of “communist aggression” and escalate U.S. involvement in Vietnam.”
Thanks.
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