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Making a Relic of the Constitution
American Thinker ^ | March 28, 2016 | Henry Oliner

Posted on 05/28/2016 9:55:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

For the last 100 years our grand political debate has centered on the tension between the principles and mechanics of the Constitution and the ideals of the Progressive movement. Under FDR the Progressives became known as liberals, but the term ‘Progressivism’ has re-emerged under Hillary, who described herself as a Progressive Democrat in order to distinguish herself from the self-proclaimed socialist who has ‘trumped’ her party’s nomination process.

The early Progressives sought changes necessitated by rapid economic growth and industrialization. They regulated food and drugs, interstate commerce, labor laws, and successfully sought to break up monopolies and trusts that they thought had gained too much economic and political power. Woodrow Wilson believed in a unified will of the voters, molded by strong leaders, and a professionally staffed administrative institution to manage government much as the new managerial class was running large businesses.

Wilson was critical of the structural constraints of the Constitution designed by the Founders. The Progressives sought to tilt the balance of power substantially from the states to the federal government, contending that parochial interests centered in Congress made national action too difficult and incohesive.

Eventually the strong leaders and compliant courts succeeded in implementing the Progressive agenda. The administrative state became a large regulatory state and gave birth to the welfare state.

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1 posted on 05/28/2016 9:55:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

<>We have found a way to work around the Constitution to pass rules in a branch without accountability yet can invoke the Constitution to block any correction.<>

John Locke described this situation as a state of war. We The People are restricted to a constitutional compact by a government that operates outside the compact.

Article V.


2 posted on 05/28/2016 10:05:34 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Bottom line America is screwed!


3 posted on 05/28/2016 10:07:31 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Kaslin
It is the Progressive Agenda and the Progressives of America that Obsolete. The Progressive agenda must be banished. Progressives preaching “Progressive-ism” need totally ridiculed and avoided.
4 posted on 05/28/2016 10:12:11 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

I believe that technology will eventually make the progressive agenda obsolete. I think this can be seen in what Uber and other such new business models are doing to the taxi cab business. Schools will eventually also be restructured away from the current state sanctioned indoctrination system. Everything is going to change. And without wanting to sound too utopian, I believe more power will eventually be placed in the hands of the individual by changes in technology and society itself.


5 posted on 05/28/2016 10:19:19 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SandRat

6 posted on 05/28/2016 10:25:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

Constitutional “Rights” only apply to Treaty Tribes - everyone else has mere privileges according to three SCOTUS rulings ... and yours have been revoked.


7 posted on 05/28/2016 10:30:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I hope that new technology will help to free up the individual. I fear that the Internet of things and artificial intelligence will create a vast governmental spy network to rule and regulate every aspect of our future lives. And the realm of virtual reality will give us soma trips while we will never have to leave our houses while using legal maurijuanna to escape reality. Anything on planet Earth can be taxed and regulated and used for the benefit of the Government.


8 posted on 05/28/2016 10:47:06 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Kaslin
For too long in America, we have called Democrats "liberals," when, in fact, they are and have stood for ideas which are the antithesis of "classical liberalism."

Now, and for the past several decades they have morphed into and now identify themselves as "progressives," a term which, in itself, is misleading. The so-called "progressive" philosophy is, in fact, regressive, for it advocates failed ideas which lead to tyranny and oppression, not to freedom, opportunity, productivity, and plenty. "Progressive" ideas are more aptly described by the word "socialist."

In the following quotations from Churchill, we can see thoughts of his on the subject dating from 1908 to the 1950's. Much of what is happening in America today is described within these words:

"When I see the present Socialist Government denouncing capitalism in all its forms, mocking with derision and contempt the tremendous free enterprise capitalist system on which the mighty production of the United States is founded, I cannot help feeling that as a nation we are not acting honorably or even honestly." - Winston Churchill, Woodford Green, July 10, 1948.

"We shall not allow the advance of society and economic well-being of the nation to be regulated and curtailed by the pace of the weakest bretheren among us. Proper incentives must be offered and full freedom given to the strong to use their strength in the commonweal. Initiative, enterprise, thrift, domestic foresight, contrivance, good housekeeping and natural ability must reap their just reward. On any other plan the population of this island will sink by disastrous and agonizing stages to a far lower standard of life and two-thirds of its present numbers." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blenheim Palace, August 4, 1947.

"The difference between what is seen and what is not seen was often noticed by the old economists. What is not seen is the infinite variety of individual transactions and decisions which, in a civilized society, within the framework of just and well-known laws, insure the advantage not only of the individual concerned, but of the community, and provide that general body of well-being constituting the wealth of nations. All this is blotted out by an over-riding State control, however imposing some of its manifestations may be. It is the vital creative impulse that that I deeply fear the doctrines and policy of the socialist Government have destroyed, or are rapidly destroying, in our national life. Nothing that they can plan and order and rush around enforcing will take its place. They have broken the mainspring, and until we get a new one the watch will not go." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, October 28, 1947.

"It is in the interest of the wage-earner to have many other alternatives open to him than service under one all-powerful employer called the State. He will be in a better position to bargain collectively and production will be more abundant; there will be more for all and more freedom for all when the wage earner is able, in the large majority of cases, to choose and change his work, and deal with a private employer who, like himself, is subject to the ordinary pressures of life and, like himself, is dependent upon his personal thrift, ingenuity and good-housekeeping." - Winston Churchill, speech, Blackpool, October 5, 1946

"Liberalism (classical liberalism) has its own history and its own tradition. Socialism has its own formulas and aims. Socialism seeks to pull down wealth; Liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests; Liberalism would preserve private interests in the only way in which they can be safely and justly preserved, namely, by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference. Socialism assails the pre-eminence of the individual; Liberalism seeks, and shall seek more in the future, to build up a minimum standard for the mass. Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capital; Liberalism attacks monopoly." - Winston Churchill, Kinnaird Hall, Dundee, May 14, 1908.

"The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard." - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

"It is curious that, while in the days of my youth I was much reproached with inconsistency and being changeable, I am now scolded for adhering to the same views I had early in life and even of repeating passages from speeches which I made long before most of you were born. Of course the world moves on and we dwell in a constantly changing climate of opinion. But the broad principles and truths of wise and sane political actions do not necessarily alter with the changing moods of a democratic electorate. Not everything changes. Two and two still make four, and I could give you many other instances which go to prove that all wisdom is not new wisdom." - Winston Churchill, speech, Bele vue, Manchester, December 6, 1947.

"It is not Parliament that should rule; it is the people who should rule through Parliament." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. November 11, 1947.

"We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep." - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

"Although it is now put forward in the main by people who have a good grounding in the Liberalism and Radicalism of the early part of this century, there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. It is not alone that property, in all its forms, is struck at, but that liberty, in all its forms, is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism." - Winston Churchill, B.B.C radio address, June 4, 1945.

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

"I do not wonder that British youth is in revolt against the morbid doctrine that nothing matters but the equal sharing of miseries: that what used to be called the submerged tenth can only be rescued by bringing the other nine-tenths down to their level; against the folly that it is better that everyone should have half rations rather than that any by their exertions, or ability, should earn a second helping." - Winston Churchill, London, June 22, 1948.

"Socialism is based on the idea of an all-powerful State which owns everything, which plans everything, which distributes everything, and thus through its politicians and officials decides the daily life of the individual citizen." - Winston Churchill, London, January 21, 1950.

"The British and Americans do not war with races or governments as such. Tyranny, external or internal, is our foe whatever trappings and disguises it wears, whatever language it speaks, or perverts." - Winston Churchill, Speech, Dorchester Hotel, London, July 4, 1953.

"You may try to destroy wealth, and find that all you have done is to increase poverty." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. March 12, 1947.

"Nor should it be supposed as you would imagine, to read some of the Left-wing newspaper, that all Americans are multi-millionaires of Wall Street. If they were all multi-millionaires that would be no reason for condemning a system which has produced such material results.: - Winston Churchill, speech, Royal Albert Hall, London. April 21, 1948.

"Rich men, although valuable to the revenue, are not vital to a healthy state of society, but a society in which rich men are got rid of, from motives of jealousy, is not a healthy state." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, April 24, 1950.


9 posted on 05/28/2016 10:58:12 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Trumpet 1

Yes that’s a possibility. But I think in a more general sort of way, top down political control is going to work out the way Prohibition did. Technology will give us 3D printers to build guns, Uber to avoid heavily regulated unionized taxis, new ways to educate our children outside the government-educational complex, new avenues for basic medical care outside heavy regulation. It’s not so much that the government can’t control these things to a degree by force, but that will become increasingly more impractical to do so. Progressivism is kind of fighting the last war.


10 posted on 05/28/2016 10:59:58 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Kaslin

Not Progressives. They are TRAITORS, and the spawn of Traitors.


11 posted on 05/28/2016 11:10:26 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Kaslin

A discussion of Progressivism without a discussion of eugenics amounts to a lie by omission.


12 posted on 05/28/2016 11:17:32 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Jacquerie
YOUR Article V is a dangerous deceptive joke.

Pretending a Convention Of States is not a constitutional convention is a blatant lie.

The whole idea/plan of the Convention Of States is to amend the constitution. You can't amend the constitution without rewriting it...PERIOD

We have found a way to work around the Constitution to pass rules in a branch without accountability yet can invoke the Constitution to block any correction
As if using Article V to add even more amendments/laws for them to ignore will change anything.

How brain dead do you have to be to not know a gathering of legislators from 38 states will not be there to do YOU any favors/make your life better?

13 posted on 05/28/2016 11:28:34 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Cruz-Fiorina...The tortoise and the harelip)
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To: PIF

For now.


14 posted on 05/28/2016 11:53:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: lewislynn

Yet one Mark Levin has been pushing it in one of his books.


15 posted on 05/28/2016 11:55:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: lewislynn

Do you oppose any other clauses or articles of the Constitution? Is Article V the only one?


16 posted on 05/28/2016 12:05:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

And the Pro-regressives will bring in millions of immigrants to be placed in government schools...while the individuals will leave the same government schools by the dozens. Millions in to the gov. Dozens leaving the gov. How will the masses vote?! For the gov. Of course. The individual who leaves the gov. will need to be well educated and innovative.


17 posted on 05/28/2016 12:06:49 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: lewislynn

A Convention of States is an abhorrent proposal.

As you say, it will be REWRITTEN by nefarious interests, and under the guise of light and goodness and correction, but by the equal influence of the other side as well as the Cruzader types. Pandora’s Box redux.

The Constitution is fine, but lacks protection and defense and enforcement.

TRUMP may FIRST, be able to bring order to the chaos, enough to at least martial enforcers of the Constitution, but WE the PEOPLE must elect those enforcers on the Hill, or else.


18 posted on 05/28/2016 12:28:36 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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The Constitution is fine, but lacks protection and defense and enforcement.

The US Constitution is not fine at all. Look at where we are today with the Federal is all powerful and the states sucking hind tit. The 16th and 17th amendments ruined the US Constitution. You are living in a dream world.

We need an Art V today!

19 posted on 05/28/2016 12:31:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RitaOK

<>The Constitution is fine, but lacks protection and defense and enforcement.<>

How do you propose to secure the protection, defense, and enforcement of the Constitution?


20 posted on 05/28/2016 12:32:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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