Trump's Brilliant Debate Idea

RUSH: You know, this Hillary email stuff, she's just looking like an idiot here now as she tries to explain all this stuff away. She's keeping it alive. It's not going away. They're not gonna be able to get rid of this, no matter what happens with the nomination, convention. Throughout the whole campaign it's gonna be dragging along. And what a brilliant idea. I don't know if Trump even knows how brilliant the idea he has is to debate Crazy Bernie. You talk about a brilliant idea.

RUSH: You know, we were talking yesterday about instincts and how Trump should just keep following them. Somebody walked up to him and started giving him brief about calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas and he just shouted right back at 'em and doubled down on it. And I don't even know if Trump -- please don't misunderstand me on this. This is a testament to his instincts. I don't know if he realizes how brilliant this proposed debate with Crazy Bernie is. And I think everybody is missing the reason why it's brilliant.

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You've heard that the Democrats, like Joe Manchin and some of these others, "No! No! No! Don't debate, no." They're mad at Bernie. They're mad at Crazy Bernie for accepting it. Crazy Bernie is thanking Jimmy Kimmel for suggesting the idea. Trump went along with it.

Now, the Democrats, you would think that they're upset about this 'cause it's upstaging Hillary. And Hillary would be upset about it for that reason. But I don't think that's why the Democrats are worried about this. She's only, what, how many delegates away? I know that wouldn't have much to do with upstaging. It's a factor. But I think what they're really worried about, so far the Crazy Bernie campaign hasn't been seen by very many people. Remember the Democrat debates took place on Saturday nights, or as they say in my hometown of Cape Girardeau, "Sat-eer-day," they took place on Saturday nights. Nobody watched 'em. Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz purposely scheduled those debates when nobody's watching TV.

Now, people are aware that Crazy Bernie's winning, but they don't know what Crazy Bernie's saying, because that campaign is not taking place in mass media. It's taking place in the physical locations, and there are excerpts, of course, highlights, news stories from the Drive-By Media about it. Crazy Bernie hasn't had anywhere near the national exposure that, say, Trump has had, or even that Hillary has.

And I'm here to tell you, folks, that the reason why there is such panic and palpable fear on the Democrat side that this may actually happen, they are afraid the public is going to end up seeing the real Democrat agenda, with the mask off and with no camouflage, if they put Bernie out there. I mean, Hillary's a radical socialist, too, but she knows how to cover it up. She knows how to hide it. She knows how to mask it. She knows how to camouflage it. She's much better at that. So was Slick Willie. Obama is good at hiding it. Crazy Bernie doesn't even try to.

Crazy Bernie is just pedal-to-the-metal, testicles to the wall as far as he can go on this, and nobody has seen it. This is the most exciting guy in the Democrat Party. That's why they're worried, folks. Remember, Democrat Party, it's as true today as it was 27 years when I started this program. They cannot win national elections by being honest about their intentions.

Just to reillustrate. If Barack Obama told everybody what was gonna happen to the national debt before he ran for office as part of his campaign, he wouldn't have gotten elected. If he had explained exactly what was going to happen with the passage of Obamacare, he would not have been elected. He had to lie (paraphrasing), "If you like your doctor, you get to keep your doctor. Like your plan, get to keep your plan, premiums coming down $2,500." They have to lie about their intentions and they have to lie about the outcome, the results.

Crazy Bernie doesn't. Crazy Bernie's out there proudly, happily shouting all of this crazy, left-wing socialism stuff. Somebody asked him, "Crazy Bernie, how do you explain Venezuela?" He didn't want to go there. You know, when you ask an avowed socialist about any avowed socialist failure, you either don't get an answer or you get some derivative, "Well, you know, they didn't have enough money. Well, you know, the right people weren't in charge. I'm the right people. We're the ones we've been waiting for," something like that.

But he was asked about Venezuela, the other South American countries that are falling apart by Univision, of all people, that's who asked him, and his response was in effect to tell 'em to shut up. He said he wants 'em to concentrate on his campaign, as if the real-life effect of radical socialism doesn't have a bearing on the campaign of a radical socialist.

Have you heard Hillary's reaction? "Oh, no, no, no, no, they're not gonna do that, they're just kidding, you know, they're just kidding about this." Meanwhile, she's sitting over there saying (imitating Clinton), "What the hell is going on here? What's Trump doing debating --" And she's out there saying, "No, no, no, Trump's gonna be debating me." But she doesn't want that to happen, either.

Now, this is a brilliant move. I do mean it when I said I don't know if Trump knows how brilliant. I'm not trying to insult him. I'm trying to compliment his instincts here. His instincts just serve him so well, it's breathtaking to watch.

RUSH: This debate with Crazy Bernie. Who would ever do this? He instinctively agrees to it, and then, as the kicker says, "It's gotta be for $10 million or $15 million, and the proceeds go to battered women, women in need, whatever. Something to do with women." I guarantee you, he doesn't have to focus group. He doesn't have a bunch of people studying this. This was not something planned. It just happened. But I'm telling you, remember, because you're gonna see more and more people talking about this if it actually appears that it's gonna happen.

I mean, you're gonna see panic on the Democrat Party side like you haven't seen before, and you're gonna be made to think that the panic is because this upstages Hillary, that Bernie should go away. "Bernie ought to know not to do this. You know, Bernie's not a team player. Bernie knows Hillary's the nominee. He's got no business debating Trump, got no business accepting the invitation! Bernie ought to stand down, step aside and let her have it," which is what was supposed to be since 2008. Isn't it interesting?

Both guys who wanted the presidency at the same time Hillary wants it refused to stand down and let her have it. And yet that's what both guys were supposed to do. And neither guy, Barack Hussein O or Bernie, are agreeing to stand down and let her have it. So Bernie, he would love this, and the Democrats would hate this because this would be that audience that would rival some of the highest rated TV shows in or out of politics. And it would give a worldwide audience to what the Democrat Party really stands for -- unmasked, uncamouflaged. 'Cause Bernie doesn't care.

RUSH: with Joe in Bellaire, Ohio. Joe, thank you so much. Great to have you on the program. Hi.

CALLER: The point I wanted to bring up was kind of why Trump is having this -- agreeing to debate with Bernie Sanders. And I believe it goes to the fact that he might be able to pick off some of the disenfranchised liberals that supported Bernie just by simply acknowledging his existence. And I think that scares the Democrat Party. I think they're worried that he is gonna be seen as somebody who bridged the gap between the disenfranchised and he might pick off some of those voters.

RUSH: Let me ask you about that, because I think you have a point. I think that's true. I think Trump would make a pitch for 'em. Trump has been, in many of these open primaries, Trump has been obviously courting Democrat crossover votes. So, the debate with Crazy Bernie, let's assume in that debate that Trump behaves in such a way as to make himself acceptable to somebody who's really excited to vote for Bernie Sanders. Now, that's not us, Joe. A Bernie Sanders --

RUSH: -- voter is not anywhere near us. What if Trump did that in the debate. Are you a Trump supporter?

RUSH: Okay, what if he does that, what if he does exactly what you think and makes an open, obvious pitch to Bernie votes to join him, is it gonna upset you, gonna worry you, gonna concern you?

CALLER: No, it's not gonna concern me. I think it's gonna show that, you know, the establishment doesn't necessarily have the foothold that they once thought they had to, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

RUSH: Well, yeah, but look there's two establishments, and the conservative movement's not part of the establishment. I take that back. There are some conservatives who are in the establishment. But I'm not. I'm not in the establishment, and I'm conservative. And I'll tell you this. In a debate, if this thing happens with Trump and Crazy Bernie -- and, by the way, it is brilliant. It's brilliant on a whole bunch of levels, and I've already explained why.

But I would prefer Trump make a pitch for conservatives that are not eager for his candidacy before he goes out and tries to pick off Crazy Bernie voters. I think there are a lot of Ted Cruz people who don't know what to do right now. A lot of Ted Cruz people may be thinking of sitting it out. Trump is a Republican, after all. He is supposed to be much closer to your average conservative voter than a Bernie Sanders voter. And I know that there are a lot of people that are working hard to influence and guide Trump in conservatism.

But it's clear he wants these Bernie voters. It's clear that he'd like to get 'em. I think part of that, I do think it's a Trump political strategy. I do think part of that is decimating and weakening the Democrat Party, by picking off a bunch of them. It's the old saw, folks. It's no different than the Republicans signing on for amnesty. Okay, if we want to get Democrats' votes, do we want Democrats to become Republicans and stay Democrats after they vote for us, or do we want to become people that are able to attract Democrats and convert them to Republicans as they move to us?

And that's the question here. If you look at the Republicans in Congress signing on to amnesty, for example, they're doing it 'cause, "We need the Hispanic vote, Mr. Limbaugh! We can't win the White House ever again without the Hispanic vote." By the way, has that not been blown through the roof now, that whole belief of the Republican establishment? "We can't win the White House without Hispanic votes." And now everybody's acknowledging that Trump can indeed win the White House, and nobody's saying he's doing it by getting Hispanic votes, and nobody's saying he's doing it by signing on to amnesty.

Everything the Republican establishment said they had to do to win the White House is being shown not necessary. But to stick to my argument, the Republican establishment said over and over again, "We gotta support amnesty, 'comprehensive immigration reform' because we need Hispanic votes, which means we need Democrat Hispanic votes." Okay. Fine. Do you want those Democrat Hispanic votes to become Republicans? Is that how you want to grow the party, or do you want to grow the party by watering down what you stand for so that it is open to people that don't agree with you? large

And that would be the question people would have about your theory that Trump is gonna go use the debate with Crazy Bernie as a means of picking off Crazy Bernie's supporters. How is he gonna do it? The way he's gonna do it is to convince 'em, "Hey, look, you know what? Your guy, Crazy Bernie, is a great guy, and he's getting shafted, and he can't win. But I can." And he's gonna make 'em think that he's one of them. So we'll see how that plays out. I really think it's, as I say, smart on a bunch of levels.

It marginalizes Hillary and puts her over here in the used heap, the unnecessary heap, the irrelevant, "Who? Hillary? No, I'm debating Crazy Bernie." Crazy Bernie never has had national exposure. Crazy Bernie goes out there and if he just be's who he is, if he is who he is, it would unmask Democrat Party like it's never been unmasked. The Democrats camouflage, lie, and hide behind all kinds of camouflage and cover to keep people from knowing what they really believe. Bernie Sanders doesn't.

That's why I think the Democrats like Joe Manchin, some of the others, are all worked up about this. They're saying he shouldn't do it 'cause it's disrespectful to Mrs. Clinton, but that's not why they're really worried about it. They're worried about it because Crazy Bernie doesn't hide it. Crazy Bernie doesn't try to cover it up. Crazy Bernie does not try to hide what he believes and what he thinks the Democrat Party ought to be, and every other Democrat does. They have to. They would never win if they were honest about the things they actually intend to do.

Trump has boxed everyone again. Trump will debate Bernie if Hillary won't. Money goes to women's groups. Trump gets more air time. Free again. Bernie gets to yell that the nominating process is fixed. The networks get to fall over themselves.

Trump is brilliant. Now why didn't the GOPe think of this. Oh it isn't in their dated play book. Time to heat up the popcorn

You know what Trump does. He is like a jazz musician. You know, like, syncopation, he throws stuff like this out on the down beat. He’ll be making one point, and then he throws out the real meat almost parenthetically. It catches everyone off-guard. You’re listening to him go along, and then you are like, uh, wha...? You think you know where he is, and then he takes you to a totally different place. He messes with minds, especially liberal minds. They think they got him, and then they learn that he is resonating with the electorate. Drives ‘em crazy.

No kidding. If I were Trump, I’d have some BS-make-work job all lined up to offer Bernie at the right moment, i.e. when it is clear Hillary or whomever has the nomination. Pull him and his supporters onboard the Trump Train! He could be “Presidential Advisor for Youth Issues” or something equally bullcrappy, it’s not like you’d want Bernie anywhere near the levers of power but to get him out of the Senate and into some BS job where his idiot followers THINK he is, that would be genius.

Not sure if you’re speaking in jest. Not sure if I’m speaking in jest in response. Brilliant(?): Offer Bernie chair of a committee to reform higher education and help ensure that the young students are getting the most bang for their college dollars.

Millenials fed up with student debt? Have we got something for you, and for your future children...

Wealthy educrats ... watch out, the Bern might be coming for you.

Could be hilarious.

Higher education is a corrupt oligarchy dead set upon separating the young and gullible (and their parents) from their hard earned cash (both present and future).

that Trump is gonna go use the debate with Crazy Bernie as a means of picking off Crazy Bernie's supporters.

Trump does a lot of smart things in handling the press but trying to pick off communist Bernie supporters instead of defending and explaining capitalism, contrasting and showing why communism and socialism never works would put the nail in the coffin of conservatives giving him a chance.

Trump has a golden opportunity to shine and show why America was great before socialist democrats started destroying it and why the base should support him . The problem is who Trump really is, is not republican and the more he moves left the less likely I am to vote for President. If he goes out and brown-noses communist I am out.

No-Show: Trump Now Says Debate With Sanders Would Be 'Inappropriate'

by CARRIE DANN

Donald Trump says that he won't debate Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders after all.

'Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher," he said in a statement.

Trump, who had said that he would participate in a debate only if it raised more than $10 million for a women's health charity, also complained that networks offering to host the event were "not proving to be too generous to charitable causes."

Trump's statement was released minutes after Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said that the Vermont senator was "prepared to accept" a proposal from one of two networks to host the unorthodox debate between Trump and Sanders, who badly trails Hillary Clinton in the delegate count.

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His press statement reminded people Clinton stole the election or cheated against Sanders. Reminded people why they hate Clinton and allowed publicly be against the debate.

So Trump steps away from the debate after damaging Clinton and no loss to him.

If Trump was a general he would be Alexander the Great - because he is unconventional and brilliant out of the box when it comes to media politics.

Rush is wrong about it being either/or with the Bernie kids versus the Cruz voters. The Cruz voters are concerned about social issues and the Constitution. He gave them the list of SCOTUS justices, and when social issues come up like men in the women’s bathroom, he just says, “leave it to the States”. If they can’t see that that is 1000 times preferable to Hillary Clinton forcing every single micro aspect of the left’s social agenda down their throats just to prove the point, then they’re nuts.

But the Bernie kids aren’t passionate about any of that. They’re pissed that their politicians have been bought off by foreign interests/crony capitalists, and thus they’re drowning in debt even as all of the jobs are either shipped overseas or taken by immigrants. Sanders has them because he’s not bought off, but Trump needs to explain that while he and Sanders agree on trade, socialism is ultimately not going to deliver the prosperity that they seek; only capitalism will. It’s a very easy argument to make because every square inch of the planet is testament to the truth of that; only the willfully blind can’t see it, and most of those kids have just been ill-informed by the education system. They’re not willfully blind.

“He is like a jazz musician. You know, like, syncopation,”

I danced Salsa for a good dozen years. Using syncopation in my steps was the fun part of dancing Salsa.

And timing is everything in dancing as well as it is in politics.

You missed the point entirely. Trump should not do anything to compromise his newly minted conservative credentials in an attempt to lure Bernistas to his side. That’s flagrant pandering and it won’t work. He should, instead, contrast everything that Bernie represents with the system of capitalism that Bernie derides, but that has made us the richest and most powerful nation in the history of the world. While you’re advising Trump to play parlor games there are others at 10,000 feet, looking at the big picture, and hoping he will contrast Bernie’s collectivism against liberty. Freedom always wins if it’s given a chance.

You missed the point entirely. Trump should not do anything to compromise his newly minted conservative credentials....

I ignore all such claims that Trump has become a conservative just recently. And I don't consider a lot of groups who claim to be conservatives as part of the ideology like neocons or whatever the ideology Glenn Beck's nuttiness falls into. Also free trade traitors are not conservatives to me either.

There is a risk here for Trump. If (when) he starts going after Bernie, he will alienate a lot of people who love Bernie that may cross over to vote for Trump. If he debates Bernie, Trump should act Presidentjal and destroy Bernies arguments of capitalism over socialism without the personal attacks. It’s a tightrope for him but a tremendous payoff if it works.

Trump said Sanders debate can't happen because Bernie is not the Dem nominee.

Promoting the debate was brilliant because Hillary Clinton surrogates and went all crazy against it. Trump just said he is not doing it because it is not proper because Sanders is not the presumptive nominee. His press statement reminded people Clinton stole the election or cheated against Sanders. Reminded people why they hate Clinton and allowed publicly be against the debate. So Trump steps away from the debate after damaging Clinton and no loss to Trump. If Trump was a general he would be Alexander the Great - because he is unconventional and brilliant out of the box when it comes to media politics.

Why doesn’t he challeng BOTH Bernie and Clinton to a debate for the $20 million dollars offered by Bob Arum?

“Boxing promoter Bob Arum offers $20M for Trump-Sanders debate”
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