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Breaking: Jim Sullivan, AR-15 Designer, Makes Some Controversial Statements on HBO Tonight
The Firearms Blog ^ | 5/24/2016 | Steve Johnson

Posted on 05/26/2016 8:47:26 PM PDT by DarthVader

Jim Sullivan helped design the AR-15 back in 1957, and later the Ruger M77, the Stoner 63, Ruger Mini-14 and the crowd favorite Ultimax 100. Most recently he was the brains behind Surefire’s 60 and 100 round quad-stack AR-15 magazines.

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I watched this dreck on HBO tonight and this is a classic example of the left's obsession with gun control. I will never watch Bryant Bumbel ever again.
1 posted on 05/26/2016 8:47:26 PM PDT by DarthVader
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I will never watch Bryant Bumbel ever again.

He's been an anal sphincter for about 50 years. News to you?

2 posted on 05/26/2016 8:51:01 PM PDT by Stentor ("Hiding behind 'conservative' while America goes down the toilet is not acceptable anymore." LS)
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No but this is a new low for him.


3 posted on 05/26/2016 8:52:13 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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No but this is a new low for him.Maybe I'll try to watch it for laughs.
4 posted on 05/26/2016 8:59:47 PM PDT by Stentor ("Hiding behind 'conservative' while America goes down the toilet is not acceptable anymore." LS)
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I don’t care who the dude is, he’s full of $h1t.


5 posted on 05/26/2016 9:17:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Sullivan looks and sounds senile...


6 posted on 05/26/2016 9:21:20 PM PDT by TXnMA (Recorded for posterity...)
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To: DarthVader

Ruger M77. Fun stuff.


7 posted on 05/26/2016 9:33:46 PM PDT by glock rocks (I'll be glad when the election is over, so FReepers can get back to discussing politics ...)
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I always find it amusing when someone says or implies "Why would you want/need X, that was designed/intended for military use?" Or "Military style weapons don't belong in civilian hands."

I just ask them: do you think we are providing our military personnel with the most effective weapons possible? I mean, along with some other constraints and priorities in addition to effectiveness/efficiency: like easy of manufacture, service life, maintenance, etc. The obvious answer to this is yes, we spend a lot of money on design and manufacturing...

So then, why wouldn't I similarly want the most effective tools to defend myself and my family? If/when I need a firearm for defense, I'm going to want to be as effective as possible. So why wouldn't I want to take advantage of all that R&D and use "military style" weapons to defend my life? You don't buy a fire extinguisher that is "good enough" if there's a better one available. You don't say "nah, seat belts alone are good enough for my passengers/family, skip the air bags" - as if we had a choice anyway.

Of course I want the best tools to defend loved ones. So the M-16 and it's civilian counterpart the AR-15 were designed to be brutally effective? Bravo! Sign me up! While I might carry a handgun out and about, my rifles stay home. So if I'm using a rifle in a defensive role...that means the brown stinky stuff has hit the air circulation machine at home and myself and possibly family members are in grave danger. I'm all-in at that point, give me the most effective weapons.

8 posted on 05/26/2016 9:38:10 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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So... he’s designed a bunch of not very good guns and some magazines that often won’t run in mil-spec ARs? He’s not a very good designer, then; I don’t see why I should listen to him.


9 posted on 05/26/2016 9:52:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Sullivan’s comments about 5.56 lethality are absurdity that’s for certain. The 30-06 and 7.62 are unquestionably more lethal.


10 posted on 05/26/2016 9:55:35 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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Things designed and intended for military use:

Prepackaged sterile bandages and dressings.
Antibiotics and antiseptics.
Modern canned and preserved foods including anything made under the Chef Boyardee brand.
Strike anywhere matches.
Anything made of rayon, nylon, polyester or related synthetics.
Trauma techniques like triage.
Many medical procedures.
Radar, which means the microwave oven.

The list goes on and on. Let’s see these people who ask this question go without all of these.


11 posted on 05/26/2016 10:01:45 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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This is the old lark about the .223 being so deadly... its old marketing propaganda so im not suprise to hear one of the designers regurgitate it


12 posted on 05/26/2016 10:04:27 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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Indeed. The AR was designed to help Vietnamese handicapped by small bodies. Why would then a woman or an elderly be forbidden from accessing these features?

The war on the AR is a direct assault on the dissabled and violation of ADA accessibility rules, but somehow no one wants to interprete it that way


13 posted on 05/26/2016 10:08:16 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Clean_Sweep

.223 is basically a hopped up varmint cartridge.

I don’t know how much truth there is to it, but have been told more than once that when you wound someone on the battlefield, it often takes a couple more soldiers out of the fight trying to save their wounded comrade. So a cartridge that would be nearly 100% fatal would not necessarily be such a huge advantage.


14 posted on 05/26/2016 10:13:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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That is true but only if that particular side cares about their wounded. In the Korean war, the Chinese didn’t.


15 posted on 05/26/2016 10:16:54 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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In the event of a human wave attack, the 5.56 isn’t going to cut it for very long. Not without some good indirect fire support and a good supply of claymores!


16 posted on 05/26/2016 10:27:37 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I wonder of the person who designed the first Car (Benz?) had any idea that his invention would have caused the deaths of so many innocent people?


17 posted on 05/26/2016 10:33:27 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party. (Or the GOPe))
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That depends on the mission profile.
A more lethal weap will tap you farther out, preventing you from coming close enough to be a threat.
In anything other than close up fighting think about range


18 posted on 05/26/2016 10:44:54 PM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Now that is a post that makes sense! Finally, a sensible response to the critics.


19 posted on 05/26/2016 10:50:45 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (God bless the United States of America)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Exactly. And it’s not like those military weapons are orders of magnitude more expensive, they cost about the same as any other suitable home defense weapon. Do I opt for the slow cycling low capacity long hunting gun, or the auto loading high capacity AR15 made for CQB? comparable price, and not having a round ready to go can be lethal.


20 posted on 05/27/2016 4:32:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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