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Justice Sotomayor's Very Bad, No Good Idea For Lawyers (mandatory pro bono work)
Forbes ^ | May 24, 2016 | George Leef

Posted on 05/24/2016 8:41:24 AM PDT by reaganaut1

On May 16 at an American Law Institute meeting, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor declared that she was in favor of forced labor – at least to the extent of compelling lawyers to do enough pro bono work so that poor people in America can have legal representation when they need it.

Many lower income Americans are unable to afford legal assistance when they need it. The legal establishment has known that for a long time, and often indulges in hand-wringing over it. Some law firms require their attorneys to engage in pro bono work, donating their time to help poor people. No doubt that has marginally reduced our “access” problem, but it remains so serious that Justice Sotomayor thinks we should ratchet up the level of coercion in America another notch to solve it.

“If I had my way,” she declared, “I would make pro bono service a requirement.”

Fortunately, we have not reached the point where one or even all the members of the Supreme Court can impose such a mandate on the legal (or any other) profession. For one thing, there is the considerable obstacle of the Thirteenth Amendment, prohibiting involuntary servitude. That amendment should be read to prohibit all kinds of forced labor, including that done under the governmental threat here: Perform enough free work or you will lose your license to work at all.

Writing on the always interesting Volokh Conspiracy blog, professor Ilya Somin argues that while there is a century old Supreme Court precedent against treating the Thirteenth Amendment as a bar to compulsory pro bono work for lawyers, that decision is flawed and should not be treated as controlling. But in any case, he says, “forced labor is a deeply unjust violation of individual liberty.

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KEYWORDS: lawyers; sotomayor
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1 posted on 05/24/2016 8:41:24 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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So how much of her personal time does the Wide Latina use in this way? (advocating for liberal agenda items doesn’t count, only helping individuals with mundane legal issues)

If none or very little, then she should shut her piehole.


2 posted on 05/24/2016 8:44:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: reaganaut1

Taxpayers already have issued “blank checks” to our legal system but I guess that’s not enough for her.


3 posted on 05/24/2016 8:44:15 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: reaganaut1

Only Republicans opposse slavery. It’s always been that way.


4 posted on 05/24/2016 8:47:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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To: reaganaut1

DemocRATS have always been the party of involuntary servitude.


5 posted on 05/24/2016 8:49:12 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: reaganaut1

MrR is an attorney in a state where he is not required to do ProBono work. However, since he has pretty much retired, that is all he does. He does it because he wants to help people, because he sees his legal work as a type of ministry not because he has to. He went into law to help people (no he is not a liberal) and that is what he does.

It is a false assumption all lawyers are only in it for the money and compelling them to do pro bono makes them want to do it less, remove the requirement and many more will do it freely.


6 posted on 05/24/2016 8:52:05 AM PDT by reaganaut (I am not "reaganaut1".)
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To: reaganaut1
Liberals aren't satisfied with taking away and spending your money, they want to take away and spend your time as well.

How many high schools in the country have as a graduation requirement a specified number of hours of community service?

7 posted on 05/24/2016 8:52:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: reaganaut1

Just how do you force people to work against their will?I think it’s wrong forcing people to do something Probono.On the other hand,if a lawyer or any other profession voluntarily does it than good for them.They should not be coerced.


8 posted on 05/24/2016 8:52:27 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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You want a license to practice law, you donate X hours per month pro-bono.

You want a license to practice medicine, you donate X hours per month pro-bono.

We’re heading there.


9 posted on 05/24/2016 8:52:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Without a doubt, especially if you got Federal student loans.


10 posted on 05/24/2016 8:53:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: reaganaut1

1) If providing the service is a requirement for licensing, it is not “pro bono” but rather is just a tax (paid by labor).

2) As with mandatory continuing legal education, the administration of mandatory pro bono would provide jobs to many unemployed lawyers (of which there are very many).

3) We have a vast oversupply of lawyers.


11 posted on 05/24/2016 8:53:34 AM PDT by Stingray51
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12 posted on 05/24/2016 8:57:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Stingray51

A haiku:

We’d be better off
If the uppity beaner
Just cleaned my toilet

and:

We’d be better served
If her wisdom directed
To scrubbing commode

and:

The wise latina
After the revolution
Has date with rope

as an aside:

Wait a minute
You forgot tortillas?
Then GTFO


13 posted on 05/24/2016 9:05:27 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: reaganaut1

Sure, after you, miz latina.


14 posted on 05/24/2016 9:07:12 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: reaganaut

Liberal-tarianism does not believe in pro bono requirements.


15 posted on 05/24/2016 9:07:45 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: dfwgator

We let the Left light that candle a decade or so ago when we let them make public service a mandatory requirement to graduate from high-school.


16 posted on 05/24/2016 9:07:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reaganaut1

Mandatory tithing to the gods of SJ.


17 posted on 05/24/2016 9:18:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: reaganaut1

Yes, many people need lawyers to wring more free shit out of the government and to legally steal private property

I think that’s what Sotomayor means


18 posted on 05/24/2016 9:27:32 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: reaganaut
" It is a false assumption all lawyers are only in it for the money and compelling them to do pro bono makes them want to do it less, remove the requirement and many more will do it freely."
ROTFLMAO! Snort, choke, wheeze..


19 posted on 05/24/2016 9:29:44 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: reaganaut1

This will require a Federal Regulatory Office of Mandatory Pro-Bono Work Accountancy and a new Czar.

Oh, not to mention, a new form (or ten) to be included in an attorney’s annual tax returns.


20 posted on 05/24/2016 9:30:18 AM PDT by moovova
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