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Hillary Clinton goes after Donald Trump, gun lobby
CBS News ^ | May 21, 2016 | Hannah Fraser-Chanpong, Reena Flores

Posted on 05/21/2016 6:50:03 PM PDT by Innovative

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton attacked Donald Trump's proposals on firearms Saturday as dangerous for America's children, just one day after the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee garnered the endorsement of the National Rifle Association.

"Donald Trump said that in his very first hour as president, heaven forbid, he would overturn President [Barack] Obama's actions to strengthen background checks," Clinton said, speaking at the Trayvon Martin Foundation's "Circle of Mothers" dinner in Fort Lauderdale. "Then, Mr. Trump went further. He said that also on his first day in office he'd mandate that every school in America allow guns in classrooms. Every school, he said. That idea isn't just way out there, it's dangerous."

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To: digger48

I remember John Lott one time commenting on how even high schools in New York City had rifle shooting clubs (up until the early 1970s if my memory serves me properly). Back then, the gym teacher usually ran such clubs and kept the guns locked in his office. Why not go back to a time like that as well? Any thoughts or memories about such things back then?


41 posted on 05/21/2016 7:18:31 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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To: Innovative

42 posted on 05/21/2016 7:19:32 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: Fungi

“Dinosaur playbook” indeed. Watch any “All in the Family” rerun from 1975 and you have the current Democrat platform. Trump is beautifully showing them for the antiquated losers they are. About time somebody did!


43 posted on 05/21/2016 7:20:02 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far.)
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To: Innovative

When I see dog whistles like ‘gun lobby’, I don’t even bother to read. CBS is really spelled ‘See B.S.’


44 posted on 05/21/2016 7:20:22 PM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: Innovative

This same evil b*tch who claims to care about children has NO problem having them aborted at 9 months..funny how Clinton hates guns yet her secret service detail ALL have them..come on Hillary, practice what you preach, you hate guns, disarm your security team


45 posted on 05/21/2016 7:20:59 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Innovative

“Clinton said, speaking at the Trayvon Martin Foundation’s “Circle of...”

Not only an ironic venue, but a venue that celebrates a thug.

George Zimmerman thanks his lucky stars and 2nd amendment that he was carrying that night.

5.56mm


47 posted on 05/21/2016 7:24:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Innovative
Clinton said, speaking at the Trayvon Martin Foundation's "Circle of Mothers" dinner in Fort Lauderdale.

That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel... a "foundation" named after a punk kid who tried to murder someone and got his own butt killed in the process.

48 posted on 05/21/2016 7:25:10 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Fai Mao

Thank you.


49 posted on 05/21/2016 7:27:37 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

For those who may have forgotten what kind of a President Bill Clinton was:

1) Clinton’s own words show his often expressed innate hostility to, and utter contempt for, the core principles of the American founding:

``If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.’’ — President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

``The purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people’’ –- Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993

``We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans…that we forget about reality.’’ — President Bill Clinton, quoted in USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A, ``NRA change: `Omnipotent to powerful’’’ by Debbie Howlett

“When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly… that they would work for the common good, as well as for the individual welfare… However, now there’s a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there’s too much freedom. When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it.” – Bill Clinton, April 19, 1995

2) Clinton inevitably pursued his own political advantage at the expense of American interests and national security. Here is just one of many possible examples:

It is well documented that Clinton and the Democrats took illegal campaign money from groups and individuals tied directly to the Chinese People’s Republican Army. It is therefore not surprising that In January 1998 Clinton went against the advice of then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher and Pentagon experts by lifting long-standing restrictions against the export of American satellites to China for launch on Chinese rockets. Not only did he move control over such decisions from the more security-focused State Department to the Commerce Department, but he intervened in a Justice Department investigation of Loral Space & Communications, retroactively enabling Loral to sell critical missile technology to the Chinese. Interestingly enough, Clinton’s decision was made at the request of Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, whose earlier $1.3 million campaign donation made him the single biggest contributor to the Democratic election effort.

The result, as stated eloquently by syndicated columnist Linda Bowles, was that “the Democrats got money from satellite companies and from Chinese communists; China got supercomputors, advanced production equipment and missile technology; Loral got its satellites launched at bargain basement prices . . . and the transfer of sensitive missile technology gave China [for the first time] the capability of depositing bombs on American cities.” Incidentally, Loral ultimately failed to benefit from this permanent injury to America’s security interests: in July 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, and in order to raise cash was forced to sell its most profitable business – a fleet of communications satellites orbiting over North America.

3) On two occasions, Clinton used military action for the specific purpose of distracting the American public from the fallout of the Lewinsky affair:

• On August 20, three days after Clinton finally admitted publicly to the Lewinsky affair, the news media was poised to focus on that day’s grand jury testimony by Monica Lewinsky. That same morning, Clinton personally went on national television to gravely announce his bombing of a Sudanese “chemical weapons factory,” and a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. It was the first time most Americans ever heard the name of Osama bin Laden. The factory bombing in Sudan killed an innocent night watchman, but accomplished little else. It later was proven that the plant was making badly needed pharmaceuticals for people in that poverty-stricken part of the world, but no chemical weapons.

Several months later, the U.S. Center for Nonproliferation Studies, part of the Monterey Institute of International Studies, stated: “...the evidence indicates that the facility had no role whatsoever in chemical weapons development.” Kroll Associates, one of the world’s most reputable investigative firms, also confirmed that there was no link in any way between the plant and any terrorist organization. As for the Afghanistan bombing, it failed to do any damage at all to bin Laden or his organization. Clinton’s action was accurately characterized by George W. Bush when he said right after 9-11: “When I take action, I’m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.

Clinton’s pointless and murderous military actions did not make Americans safer that day, although they did destroy an innocent life, and for all the good they did certainly could have been delayed in any case. But they did succeed in diverting media attention from Lewinsky’s grand jury testimony for a 24-hour news cycle, which was the main point. So I guess, they weren’t a total loss.

•On December 16, 1998, on the eve of the scheduled House vote on his impeachment, Bill Clinton launched a surprise bombing attack on Baghdad. As justification for this exploit, he cited the urgent threat that Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction posed to America, and the need for immediate action. Almost immediately, the House Democrats held a caucus and emerged calling for a delay in the impeachment proceedings. House minority leader Dick Gephardt made a statement: “We obviously should pass a resolution by saying that we stand behind the troops. I would hope that we do not take up impeachment until the hostilities have completely ended.”

Conveniently, a delay so near the end of the House term would have caused the vote to be taken up in the next session – when the newly elected House membership would be seated with more Democratic representation, thereby improving Clinton’s chances of dodging impeachment.

The Republicans did, in fact, agree to delay the hearings, but only for a day or two. Amazingly, Clinton ended the bombing raid after only 70 hours — once it became clear that in spite of the brief delay, the vote would still be held in the current session.

Once the bombing stopped, Clinton touted the effectiveness and importance of the mission. As reported by ABC News : “We have inflicted significant damage on Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction programs, on the command structures that direct and protect that capability, and on his military and security infrastructure,” he said. Defense secretary William Cohen echoed the point: “We estimate that Saddam’s missile program has been set back by at least a year.”

Whether or not one buys Clinton’s assessment of that mission, it is difficult to believe that its timing was so critical that it required commencement virtually at the moment the House was scheduled to vote on the impeachment. I think the most reasonable conclusion is that Clinton cynically deployed US military assets and placed military personnel in harm’s way for purely political reasons.

4) Clinton’s reckless sexual behavior was a threat to American national security:

Clinton and his supporters have been very effective in persuading large numbers of Americans that the Lewinsky scandal was “only about sex.” But I see a bigger issue here, because Clinton is on record as saying that he would have done anything to keep knowledge of the Lewinsky affair from becoming public.

To me, that statement raises a very serious question: What if, instead of sending her recorded Lewinsky conversations to Ken Starr, Linda Tripp had instead secretly offered them for sale, say, to the Chinese government? Or to the Russians? Or even to agents of Saddam?

What kind of blackmail leverage would those tapes have provided to a foreign government in dealing with America on sensitive trade, security or military issues? One of the few things Clinton ever said that I believe is that he would have done anything to keep the Lewinsky affair secret. Given his demonstrated track record of selling out American interests for personal or political gain (and there are more examples that I could have cited here), how far would he have gone in compromising America’s real interests in order to protect his own neck when threatened with blackmail?

Pretty far, I believe. Equally distressing is the prospect Clinton might, in fact, have succumbed to foreign black mail on other occasions in order to hide different sexual episodes that ultimately did not become public. There is no way to know, of course, but I prefer presidents for whom such a scenario is not a plausible possibility.

And don’t even get me started on the war crime in Kosovo.

WAR IN KOSOVO

During Bill Clinton’s 1999 NATO-led war in Kosovo – which according to some estimates cost as much as $75 billion – we bombed Belgrade for 78 days, killed almost 3,000 civilians, and shredded the civilian infrastructure (including every bridge across the Danube.)

We devastated the environment, bombed the Chinese embassy, came very close to engaging in armed combat against Russian forces, and in general, pursued a horrific and inhumane strategy to rain misery on the civilian population of Belgrade in order to pressure Milosevic into surrendering.

Why did we do all that? The US did not even have an arguable interest in the Balkans, and no one ever tried to claim that Serbia represented any kind of threat to our nation or our interests.

But for months the Clinton administration had told us that Milosevic was waging a vicious genocide against Albanian Muslims, and needed to be stopped. The New York Times called it a “humanitarian war.” In March 1999 – the same month that the bombing started – Clinton’s State Department publicly suggested that as many as 500,000 Albanian Kosovars had been murdered by Milosevic’s regime. In May of that year, as the bombing campaign was drawing to a close, Secretary of Defense William Cohen lowered that estimate 100,000.

Five years after the bombing, after all the forensic investigations had been completed, the prosecutors at Milosevic’s “War Crimes” trial in the Hague were barely been able to document a questionable figure of perhaps 5,000 “bodies and body parts.” During the war, the American people were told that Kosovo was full of mass graves filled with the bodies of murdered Albanian Muslims. But none were ever found.

BILL CLINTON ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE

During the election cycle of 1992, George H.W. Bush lost his job after Bill Clinton hammered him relentlessly for having caused the “worst economy of the last 50 years.”

In fact, as CNN’s Brooke Jackson has reported: “Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office.” See (See http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/31/jackson.recession.primer.otsc/).

By the same token, Clinton is generally perceived as having a stellar economic record during his own presidency, in spite of the fact that the economy was already starting to decline during the last year of his term after the stock market crashed in March 2000.

According to a report by MSNBC: “The longest economic expansion in U.S. history faltered so much in the summer of 2000 that business output actually contracted for one quarter, the government said Wednesday in releasing a comprehensive revision of the gross domestic product. Based on new data, the Commerce Department said that the GDP — the country’s total output of goods and services — shrank by 0.5 percent at an annual rate in the July-September quarter of 2000.”

See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3676690/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/gdp-figures-revised-downward/.


50 posted on 05/21/2016 7:32:01 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Innovative

He prepared the battlefield and trucked Hillary into the kill zone. Trump is picking teh issues that Hillary is focusing on now. She is reacting to Trump. Like a moth to a flame. Boom - Boom - Boom - Boom.


51 posted on 05/21/2016 7:33:15 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Innovative

This’ll cost her. I love it. Stupid liberals never learn. Because they’re stupid.


52 posted on 05/21/2016 7:38:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Innovative

I would bet that the dead faculty members at Sandy Hook would really like a do-over with a gun facing Adam Lanza.


53 posted on 05/21/2016 7:42:50 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Innovative

Good. The bigger this fight is, the more of the country’s 100 million gun owners she will alienate.


54 posted on 05/21/2016 7:42:56 PM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: MarvinStinson

Trayvon Martin Foundation, a terrorist and criminal enabling entity dedicated to wannabe murderers by destroying the Second Amendment.


55 posted on 05/21/2016 7:48:15 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Innovative

They aren’t going after the gun lobby, they’re going after gun owners


56 posted on 05/21/2016 7:49:00 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (The darker the culture, the brighter your light can shine.)
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To: lapsus calami

Donald Trump will just that. Rest assured. He will grab her like a lion going after a gazzelle. The debate(s) will not be pretty for Crooked Hillary. She will be turned every which way but loose. We may even see her crying because of what Trump does to her. What is the political equivalant of boxing’s throwing in the towel?


57 posted on 05/21/2016 7:53:10 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.)
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To: Innovative

Bookmark


58 posted on 05/21/2016 8:00:29 PM PDT by corlorde
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To: Innovative

Cankles is playing right into Trump’s hands.


59 posted on 05/21/2016 8:07:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: libstripper

The democrats care about all the wrong people!!


60 posted on 05/21/2016 8:21:54 PM PDT by edie1960
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