Posted on 05/19/2016 5:47:06 AM PDT by expat_panama
A good lawsuit and the company having to pay back overtime and penalties should fix that problem. I know that some employees are fearful of losing their job and not being able to find another one. But I don’t think the government telling business how much they have to pay employees regardless of the work they do fix it. It will only hurt the employees that weren’t abused, that enjoyed flexible hours, as I know working moms sure do. This is a war on women!
I have seen it in companies that I have worked for. It’s not common practice if you work for good people and good companies that don’t ‘abuse’ the rules, but it does happen........................
The primary offender here is the retail industry. They routinely throw menial grungework at exempt, salaried members of management. Then stick their head in the sand and act like they had no idea it was happening when challenged. Thus they can avoid having to pay an hourly wage to an employee to do such things.
I had a management title and spent far more time stocking shelves, sweeping floors, and doing maintenance work than actually managing anything.
This goes on pretty much across the board in all retail chains. It was long past time this was addressed.
Yes, retail and food establishments. Probably why they have high turnover rates.
I understand. But again this is just updating a rule that was last updated by President Bush and for the same reasons.
And again: I completely oppose the minimum wage.
But if you’re going to have a real minimum wage then closing a loophole to allow certain employers to evade the legal minimum makes sense.
Making this change on Dec 1-—instead of Jan 1 of 2017 is another blow to employers.
This means changes to current payroll software-—and more time clocks in places where none have existed before.
Wonder how many time clocks are on the shelves ready to be sold to these employers???Many companies won’t accept hand written time cards——which also are somewhat short in supply.
Hear the enviros now——there go more trees for time cards~!!!!!
I was a payroll supervisor in the 79’s for a weekly payroll of about 750 people in 7 states. The time cards we got-—almost all were hourly employees-—were not all the same. Some were hours & minutes-—some were 10ths of an hour-—some were other combinations. Had to be sharp as you were processing those time cards.
What are they going to do with people in the medical industry? Most nurses are exempt from overtime I think.
I totally support your point of view.
I sometimes work as a pastry chef at a couple of resorts around here and the managers are there for six ten hour days per week and then they come in on the seventh day for manager’s stand-up meetings.
And they end up making less than minimum wage when you figure their hours worked against their pay.
Sucks to be a manager.
Nobody uses time clocks anymore.
In retail people clock in and out on the POS system.
Other businesses use tablets and handheld devices.
So $1.2 billion spread over 4.2 million people. About $300 a person, per year. That’s the benefit? About $4 per week, or less than $1 per day?
Seems like nothing, even to those who “benefit” from the rule. Dropping out a single Starbuck coffee per WEEK would put more money in their pocket at the end of the year.
A big problem for companies is the secret is out and nobody wants the “manager” titles anymore. I tell co-workers foolish enough to still chase that they should be careful what they wish for: They’ll just be worked longer hours for what amounts to a lower hourly wage (and any work/life balance is shot).
How about new lawyers at a large firm? They are expected to work long hours-—and this is their apprenticeship....
Getting any kind of legal help in the future will be very costly!!! Sane thing for accounting firms.
You’re right; “manager” just became an empty title given to the most reliable, conscientious workers to screw then out of overtime while they did the work of unreliable workers who show up late/leave early or don’t show up at all...
I was a payroll supervisor in the 79’s for”””
70’s sorry
BTW- There might be a train derailment-—or an airplane crash-—and medical & police have to work long hours to help those involved.
Do they get to walk off at the end of 8 hours???
The real benefit will be that salaried people will no longer be abused for free overtime. I doubt a whole lot of new overtime hours will be paid out. They’ll hire new part-timers instead.
oh....and the fact that Republicans did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to address this problem (even though it has become increasingly blatant and obvious over several decades) hands the Dems a political win on this.
AND lots of small businesses in this country don’t have ANY of what you are describing.
A cattle or sheep operation in the western USA isn’t in the game for any of that stuff. OR a dude ranch-—Or a rafting company-—or a hunting guide business-—Or a fishing boat— OR OR-—
I live where houses within 7 miles of me are OFF THE GRID-—NO electricity.
Not everything is downtown New York or Los Angeles or San Francisco.
Or they could give ole Rob a $47.62/week raise and he’d actually see some more $ in his wallet, while the company would be clear of any more bureaucratic nonsense.
It is UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE for Barack Obama and his legion of demons to impose this rule. THIS IS NOT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, THIS IS MAKING LAW.
Everyone should effing ignore this bullshat, and throw the bird at that faggot.
FINE, then Congress should pass legislation that the Senate can review, and send a bill to the President to sign.
THIS AD-HOC LEGISLATING SHALL NOT STAND.
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