[MaxFlint]

Actually, don’t get too hasty. He’s been a party of about 1/2 for many years. He’s not all there anymore.

If you look at the record the neoconservatives only got the majority of the popular vote once, in 2004. Wilsonian interventionism was a losing issue for Bush senior in 1992, and all but wiped out the GOP from 2006 to 2008.

Karl Rove, the neocon's "master strategist", thought he could afford to lose most of the Reagan coalition by buying off elderly Democrats with a bigger welfare state. The payoff? President Obama, socialized medicine and homo marriage.

Karl is probably happy about that last part.

[DoughtyOne]

Can’t argue with that. The outcome is the outcome...