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1 posted on 05/17/2016 4:29:29 PM PDT by blam
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But I don’t think that if you want high-class universities, you should expect them to lower their standards in order to make up for some inadequacies in our secondary education system.

He's hedging his bet.

He knows the real root of the problem and it isn't the secondary education system.

Inadequacies in the secondary education system wouldn't account for the disparity in ability and admission scores between
the Affirmative Action crowd and regular admissions.

He knows it, we know it, the whole western world knows it.


2 posted on 05/17/2016 4:37:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If liberals were in charge of the oceans, in 5 years they would be vast water-less deserts)
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Patten's remarks blame high schools, rather than Oxford, for failing to prepare certain students for acceptance into prestigious universities.

Yeah, and the ideas that wrecked the high schools came from prestigious universities.

3 posted on 05/17/2016 4:38:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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4 posted on 05/17/2016 4:39:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Of course it does. ...and now your fired.


5 posted on 05/17/2016 4:40:24 PM PDT by Eddie01
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Thank God someone in the academic workd still has cojones.

Havaaad, Yale, etc appear to have pajama boy clones at the top.


6 posted on 05/17/2016 4:40:38 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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That’s true everywhere, from Oxford, to Johnson & Johnson.


8 posted on 05/17/2016 4:41:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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I didn’t know Captain Obvious headed up a major university!


9 posted on 05/17/2016 4:42:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Keep out of our bathrooms)
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The theory I read back in the day was that inferior students who graduated did just as well as qualified graduates. I ran into affirmative action graduates for the last third of my career. They got passed around quickly by program managers because for the most part they sucked a charge number dry while producing nothing useful. Often, they ended up on overhead jobs like the diversity council or some other liberal make-work job. My tactic for handling most of them was to sit for a friendly chat, then pull out my report and ask, “last week you charged forty hours to my number. What was it you did for me?” Sometimes they were flabbergasted that I even asked. But if they kept charging it I would check their card and stop by more frequently. Most of the time I could shame them in to sucking somebody else’s charge number. Once I was accused of racism and harassment. But after he complained and I’d been talked to by HR, they moved him to somebody else.


11 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:26 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Affirmative action means lower standards. Just look at the Alan Bakke case. Dr. Bakke finally got into medical school and has performed well whereas the affirmative action admitted student lost his license for illegal actions and malpractice.
12 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:36 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Having a best university is racist against crappy universities. Stop university privilege.


13 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:44 PM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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Isn’t that what Scalia or Thomas recently said in one of their decision, which created a liberal firestorm?


14 posted on 05/17/2016 4:49:00 PM PDT by iontheball
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our American universities have been infected with this racist admissions and grading policy since at least the 1960’s

you will find much more racism in university admissions offices (and amongst some of the faculties) than anywhere else in America, bar none (except maybe if you dare enter a mosque, but I sure wouldn’t recommend that!)


16 posted on 05/17/2016 4:50:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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18 posted on 05/17/2016 4:51:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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Chancellor's an honorary position that they give to retired politicians (like Chris Patten of Hong Kong fame). The Vice Chancellor does the actual work.

Until recently, ethnic minorities weren't that large a part of Britain's population outside the big cities. That's changing.

20 posted on 05/17/2016 4:59:57 PM PDT by x
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If you don’t want to lower standards to let students in, don’t have any sports teams.


21 posted on 05/17/2016 5:01:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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Of course affirmative action means lower standards. That fact has been known since the pernicious concept started being implemented in the 1960’s.


24 posted on 05/17/2016 5:14:35 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Dr. Thomas Sowell has written quite a bit on this.

Not only does AA do disservices to the rest of the students, it particularly harms those it is supposed to help.

First off, the drop-out rate for Black students is far greater than other students, simply because the students admitted to top schools due to AA usually aren’t prepared for the more rigorous academic requirements. Were they to go to colleges for which they were prepared, they may well have graduated and lived successful, productive lives.

Secondly, the exceptional Black students who do belong in top schools are tarred with a “not good enough to get in on their own” label.

Mark


25 posted on 05/17/2016 5:15:16 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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By default it does because skin color overrides academic ability and performance.


26 posted on 05/17/2016 5:19:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Do you think Chris Patten consulted Captain Obvious before he released his statement?


29 posted on 05/17/2016 5:23:38 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The answer: To frustrate FOIA requests and conceal the money laundering of bribes thru the CGCI!)
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to make up for some inadequacies in our secondary education system.

If the secondary education system were to blame, then whites and Asians from inner-city schools would also have low scores. Do they? (Hint: No.)

30 posted on 05/17/2016 5:45:57 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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