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Puerto Rico debt becomes constitutional fight on the right
The HILL ^
| 5/15/2016
| By Sylvan Lane and Peter Schroeder -
Posted on 05/16/2016 6:14:37 PM PDT by WENDLE
Republicans are waging a battle over the Constitution when it comes to helping Puerto Rico.
Supporters of Speaker Paul Ryans legislation to help Puerto Rico handle billions in debt before a critical July bond payment deadline point to Article IV of the Constitution in arguing they have a responsibility to help the territory.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; puertorica; ryan; wendlefud
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To: WENDLE
It is NOT about bailing out Puerto Rico.... They are already broke.
It IS about bailing out the big banks and others who foolishly lent way too much to Puerto Rico to earn a higher yield, assuming that they would be bailed out by the US Taxpayer if things went south.
Things have gone south; do not bail them out!!!
To: WENDLE
It ain’t like he’s spending his OWN money.
To: WENDLE
WE HAVE zero OBLIGATION. WE DONT BAIL OUT STATES!! For damned sure we dont add to our 20 TRILLION dollar debt for a darn foreign country!!
Can you explain what foreign country Ryan is trying to bail out?
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:38:41 PM PDT
by
ronnietherocket3
(Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
To: WENDLE
Speaker of the house of cards.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:40:14 PM PDT
by
PGalt
To: Stingray51
I dont understand why you say that the bonds issued by Puerto Rico were issued in our (the USAs) name - could you please explain? My understanding is that the bonds were issued by the government of Puerto Rico and that the commonwealths government and the bondholders were all sophisticated parties represented by big-time lawyers who were familiar with P.R.s legal inability to invoke bankruptcy protection.
Since the government of Puerto Rico was created by the US government (and is not a state government) and can be dissolved by the US government, it may very well be that any bonds (or other debt) issued by Puerto Rico is backed by the United States.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:41:18 PM PDT
by
ronnietherocket3
(Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
To: ronnietherocket3
Oh ok, thanks for your answer. I’m not sure it works like that but I guess we’ll see.
To: ronnietherocket3
Puerto Rico !!! Not my business. Comprende?
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:46:20 PM PDT
by
WENDLE
(50 states)
To: WENDLE
headline in error - Puerto Rico is not a foreign country. It is a Commonwealth and part of the US whose citizens are American citizens.
Having said that, they should not be bailed out. One of the major parties there advocates no bailout also.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:48:40 PM PDT
by
elpadre
(AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
To: Secret Agent Man
I doubt he’s ever had to worry about balancing a checkbook. That’s the problem with the silver spoons we have in office. There so damn wealthy they have no concept of why the books need to be balanced.
To: elpadre
Total Foreign Country— No error!! WE DON’T EVEN BAIL OUT STATES!! get a clue.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:52:02 PM PDT
by
WENDLE
(50 states)
To: WENDLE
Puerto Rico !!! Not my business. Comprende?
Puerto Rico is not a foreign country it is a territory of the United States.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:53:16 PM PDT
by
ronnietherocket3
(Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
To: ronnietherocket3; WENDLE
Ronnie's in the right on this one.
Posts 12 and 25 are the reference points, but yes, PR is a US territory, with ZIP codes even.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:56:49 PM PDT
by
Category Four
(Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
To: WENDLE
Puerto Rico has been running a government Ponzi Scheme for years.
Jail all of the politicians and their families and confiscate all their assets.
They need to cut their expenses to match their tax income. It will hurt, but tough. Should have thought of that before they elected thieves.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:56:51 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: blueunicorn6
I think we should act humanely by air dropping donated food and weapons until the rioting stops.
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posted on
05/16/2016 6:58:57 PM PDT
by
WENDLE
(50 states)
To: WENDLE
Bailing Puerto Rico or investment bankers?
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posted on
05/16/2016 7:12:45 PM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: WENDLE
Leaflets.
Drop leaflets.
Like for a dollar off on a car wash.
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posted on
05/16/2016 7:16:16 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: MtnClimber
Let Puerto Rico fail. No Bailout by the US Treasury.
Let the Clinton Trust pay for the bailout.
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posted on
05/16/2016 7:24:03 PM PDT
by
Rapscallion
(You are correct. It IS a conspiracy, not a bad dream.)
To: WENDLE
Do you realize how much we gave to Iraq????
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posted on
05/16/2016 7:27:44 PM PDT
by
Bogie
(Just a coincidence?)
To: WENDLE
WE DON’T BAIL OUT STATES, like Illinois and California!! Much less do we send our tax dollars to a foreign country!!
They will be bailing out states (counties and cities) after they set the precedent to bail out PR. Sick.
To: WENDLE
Take a breath, Wendle. The bill does not send any taxpayer money to Puerto Rico. It says that right in the article you posted.
What this is about is whether or not PR will be permitted to do some form of bankruptcy, because they can't pay all their debts. Someone, bondholders, pensioners, etc. is going to not get the money they were promised. So it really is about whether Congress should pass legislation to enable a managed default/bankruptcy, or just let it fall apart piecemeal.
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