Posted on 05/13/2016 8:32:22 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll
As to income taxes and the military draft, both were initiated unconstitutionally by Abraham Lincoln (but I repeat myself). The Lincoln era income tax was later struck down by SCOTUS as blatantly unconstitutional. Those who just could not imagine keeping their grubby acquisitive paws off other folks' income enacted the Sixteenth Amendment to arguably make such taxes "constitutional." Within just a few years (less than a decade) that first "constitutional" income tax was levied at rates of 80+% on upper bracket income. After all, it would have been unseemly to expect Woodrow Wilson to fund massive expansions of government naked power by sitting on street corners or in railroad stations selling pencils to passersby the old-fashioned honest way.
As to the military draft, if service personnel are being bossed around, which seems rather essential to the mission of the military, they are in servitude. That is legal but re-thinking is always in order. The military draft (or any other) is NOT voluntary by definition. We are supposed to be a free nation of free people.
If the American people are air-headed enough (or worse) to elect Obozo or, God forbid, the Arkansas Medusa, that does not mean that our young people get "drafted" into involuntary servitude to fight, be maimed and die for the kinds of causes over which Obozo and Her Satanic Majesty might want to go to war.
A truly voluntary military is a far stronger military than one made up of coerced malcontents.
Where did I say that I do not want a standing military?
I want a standing military, a military that is well paid, highly respected, feared by our enemies, well trained in the arts of war, utterly determined to exterminate our nation's enemies whenever they deserve it and with weaponry second to none and about half a galaxy beyond whatever comes second. It should have very substantial numbers of absolutely VOLUNTEER soldiers, sailors, marines, air force. Military service should be viewed as novelist Robert Heinlein viewed it, a far higher calling than civilian pursuits.
That military should be always ready to deploy, kill the enemy, break his things, and confiscate enough of his property to pay the entire tab and then get the hell out. Rinse and repeat as necessary. No nation building. No police duty.
Your apparent notion of a military made up of conscripts mainly from those of modest economic means and exempting the affluent from mandatory service is a prescription for building a Marxist revolutionary military that, one way or anothere, would seek a Marxist state. It would be Obozo's dream military and one eager to do his bidding in destroying all worth preserving. And, of course, our nightmare.
Not one member of our armed services has been "drafted" in the last forty years. It humbles the politicians and that is a good thing. We have, however, learned to abuse the Reserves and National Guard by requiring extensions of time for THEIR service. That too must end. They are the best qualified to fight wars. Now let the politicians grovel before them and beg them and cajole them whenever war seems necessary to the politicians. It is the service personnel at war and NOT the id-infested politicians who deserve respect and deference.
We are just getting soooooo inclusive: lavender queens, butches, lipsticks, trannys. In earlier days, men were exempted for flat feet, never mind for moral turpitude, and now we take in just about anyone from the weirdo-American community. Some also want to force women into such service. No thanks.
This "draft them" and "MAKE them fight when WE tell them to fight just BECAUSE WE tell them to fight" is the mindset that emerges from a shameful inclination to even allow women of child-bearing age to be in combat. What's next? Making little girls and old ladies and the physically and intellectually handicapped (differently abled???) do our fighting for us?
Perhaps I was not clear enough. I know we have a volunteer military and I am all in favor of that being the case. Registering for the draft is not in and of itself servitude. As long as the volunteer military continues to be able to man itself all is fine. The draft would only kick in if and when we fell short and extra troops were needed.
It is prudent to have this list since to attempt to start from scratch in a national emergency is a non starter and guaranteed to fail in todays world. I am saying everyone should be on this list and subject to a call up if necessary.
Please let the first one to be drafted McCain’s liberal walking donut daughter. Then we can see how much he likes drafting women. Real men want no part of women in combat or women being drafted. McCain, the spoiled rotten son of an admiral could care less. He was a disaster as a Naval officer and a worst disaster as a republican senator. He’s despised by 99% of veterans groups. The reason? He’s hated veterans since the day he finally retired from active duty and as a senator has consistently voted against them.
“Any country that sends women”
We don’t have to SEND our women any where, the enemy is all ready inside the gates, because we have no WALLS/ BALLS!
The women in my family are prepared, some have joined, a few were in WW2. Those in WW2 were non combat but did have combat close around them, some were in air plane delivery.
You don’t help your point get across by shouting.
I’m happy with my position as expressed above. A society that accepts women in combat as normal is one that has forgotten what a healthy, well ordered community should be. It has forgotten what human beings are, and as such is decadent probably beyond rescue. It needs to be put down because it’s only hurting the cause of authentic human progress, not helping.
McCain is using Alinsky tactics—make your opponent live up to their own rules.
Obama and the left are allowing women into combat roles. McCain is simply carrying their actions to its logical conclusion.
How many 18 year old girls are going to be happy registering for the draft? Maybe it will at least be an eye opener for them.
They should add some text to the registration indicating exactly what they are signing up for:
* The government can force them into military service for an indeterminate period of time.
* Their rights will be restricted during this time.
* The government will have the right to order them into situations where they may be injured, maimed, or killed; they will not have the right to refuse those orders.
Maybe this reality check is what’s needed.
If you are of the school of capitalizing words, is shouting, I don’t. Sorry about that. I did it to emphasize. The fact that I’m eighty my communication skills, may be fading?
When we are up to our (not capitalized) in terrorists, I will not turn away any aid no matter what their sexual persuasion!
I am not asking you to change your position, in any way. Some day though, we all, may have our’s changed for us.
I wish you well!
I give opinions, not advice. Lou Holtz
Because civilized societies have always recognized that women are not sent into war. They nurture and support the family. The feminists went to war against that traditional principle, (drafting women was a feminist agenda from the beginning) and a lot of “conservatives” - such as you - have become feminists.
While I am sure that we agree on most everything, including that Juan McCain is an idiot, your statement is not completely accurate. As an example 22,000 army nurses served in WWI and 3,000 navy nurses. 1,200 of these women died from enemy attack, illness, exhaustion and other causes.
Up until the 1960s the names of all women who completed nurses training were sent to the Red Cross for “reasons of war or disaster”. My mother’s name was sent to the Red Cross when she graduated from nursing school in the 1950s. At that time my mother and all new nurses knew that in case of “war or disaster” they could be required to serve.
When the Army or Navy needed nurses they went to the Red Cross and the Red Cross sent letters out to the nurses that they selected ordering them to report to the Army or Navy for service. The nurses either complied or had to have a legitimate reason, they weren’t allowed to say just that they did not want to. They were effectively drafted.
Somehow this historical fact doesn’t make it into discussions such as this one very often. There is nothing civilized about war, throughout all of history members of “civilized societies” of both sexes have found themselves in the middle of conflicts regardless of their roles in normal society.
Sorry I forgot to italicize those are WilliamIIIs words.
Sorry one more typo:
It should have said,
“During WWI when the Army or Navy needed nurses they went to the Red Cross and the Red Cross sent letters out to the nurses that they selected ordering them to report to the Army or Navy for service. The nurses either complied or had to have a legitimate reason, they weren’t allowed to say just that they did not want to. They were effectively drafted.”
During WWII the services recruited nurses directly and also had a program known as the Nurses Cadet Corp.
There are 99 other senators who don’t have their heads up their asses, I hope.
As I understand it nearly 200 women have died in uniform between Iraq and Afghanistan; if we accept that then make them register for the draft. Those women certainly were no important to me than my male children (in fact, they volunteered).
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