Posted on 05/13/2016 8:32:22 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll
Pregnant, female, Navy SEALs was something many of us used to joke about as a way of exaggerating the absurd social engineering in the military. Yet, placing women in special operations and direct combat units has now become a reality under the Obama-led Pentagon. Sadly, not only have Republicans like John McCain refused to use their perches on the Armed Services Committees in the House and Senate to block this social engineering, they are now codifying it with a provision that could lead to a mandatory draft of all women. Earlier this week, I noted that the final House version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) contained a provision for the first time ever including young women in the requirement to register for Selective Service. However, this provision was only added because of a strategic mistake of the committee chairman who thought the members would vote down this absurdity. He was just trying to make a point. John McCain, on the other hand, who is chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, deliberately placed that provision in his chairman's mark of the NDAA, according to a Senate staffer.
I am further told by Senate staff that it is unlikely an amendment to strike this provision will even succeed on the floor of the Senate, which means a majority of that body now supports drafting women. The only hope to stop this is on the House floor. Have we gone mad as a society?
Any vestige of GOP opposition to Democrat social transformation is now gone. There is no floor. Battle lines that used to hold for decades are now plowed through by Democrats in a matter of one committee markup. A party that stands for nothing, indeed.
Update: A Summary of the NDAA from McCain's office defends the provision to include women in Selective Service as follows: "Because the Department of Defense has lifted the ban on women serving in ground combat units, the committee believes there is no further justification in limiting the duty to register under the Military Selective Service Act to men." Thus, McCain believes that because a few liberal social groups and Obama's politically appointed generals want to include women in combat on a voluntary basis, the Senate should therefore require all women to potentially register for the draft. And instead of debating this earth shattering social transformation publicly in a standalone bill, McCain decided to slip in the provision to a 1,000-page bill authorizing all defense programs.
Another disturbing provision in this bill establishes an independent National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service. The commission is tasked with, among other things, to "consider how to foster a sense of service and civic responsibility among the nation's youth, improve military recruiting, and increase the pool of qualified applicants for military service and their propensity to serve." While this provision sounds innocuous, some conservatives might be concerned that given McCain's long record of support for Americorps and other public service programs, he will use this program to compel young adults (now including women) into some sort of public service.
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), who sits on the Armed Services Committee, was so vehemently opposed to this provision that he voted against the underlying bill. In a statement provided to Conservative Review, the Texas senator noted that although the committee adopted 12 of his amendments related to an array of foreign policy and national security issues, he could not "in good conscience vote to draft our daughters into the military, sending them off to war and forcing them into combat." "I will continue my efforts to speak out against the effort to force America's daughter into combat," wrote the former presidential candidate in a statement.
Update: Sens. Mike Lee and Deb Fischer also voted against final passage. Sen. Lee called this provision "misguided and ill-advised" in a statement he released tonight. He also opposed the bill because it continues the program funding the Syrian rebels. "The bill authorizes the continuation of the Syria Train and Equip program, which was suspended last year after expending hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money to train only four or five fighters and finance the purchase of weapons that were ultimately seized by Al Nusra, the Syrian Al Qaeda affiliate," wrote Lee. "I firmly believe that the American counter-ISIS strategy must be reconsidered from the top-down and that we should not fund failing programs."
As to income taxes and the military draft, both were initiated unconstitutionally by Abraham Lincoln (but I repeat myself). The Lincoln era income tax was later struck down by SCOTUS as blatantly unconstitutional. Those who just could not imagine keeping their grubby acquisitive paws off other folks' income enacted the Sixteenth Amendment to arguably make such taxes "constitutional." Within just a few years (less than a decade) that first "constitutional" income tax was levied at rates of 80+% on upper bracket income. After all, it would have been unseemly to expect Woodrow Wilson to fund massive expansions of government naked power by sitting on street corners or in railroad stations selling pencils to passersby the old-fashioned honest way.
As to the military draft, if service personnel are being bossed around, which seems rather essential to the mission of the military, they are in servitude. That is legal but re-thinking is always in order. The military draft (or any other) is NOT voluntary by definition. We are supposed to be a free nation of free people.
If the American people are air-headed enough (or worse) to elect Obozo or, God forbid, the Arkansas Medusa, that does not mean that our young people get "drafted" into involuntary servitude to fight, be maimed and die for the kinds of causes over which Obozo and Her Satanic Majesty might want to go to war.
A truly voluntary military is a far stronger military than one made up of coerced malcontents.
Where did I say that I do not want a standing military?
I want a standing military, a military that is well paid, highly respected, feared by our enemies, well trained in the arts of war, utterly determined to exterminate our nation's enemies whenever they deserve it and with weaponry second to none and about half a galaxy beyond whatever comes second. It should have very substantial numbers of absolutely VOLUNTEER soldiers, sailors, marines, air force. Military service should be viewed as novelist Robert Heinlein viewed it, a far higher calling than civilian pursuits.
That military should be always ready to deploy, kill the enemy, break his things, and confiscate enough of his property to pay the entire tab and then get the hell out. Rinse and repeat as necessary. No nation building. No police duty.
Your apparent notion of a military made up of conscripts mainly from those of modest economic means and exempting the affluent from mandatory service is a prescription for building a Marxist revolutionary military that, one way or anothere, would seek a Marxist state. It would be Obozo's dream military and one eager to do his bidding in destroying all worth preserving. And, of course, our nightmare.
Not one member of our armed services has been "drafted" in the last forty years. It humbles the politicians and that is a good thing. We have, however, learned to abuse the Reserves and National Guard by requiring extensions of time for THEIR service. That too must end. They are the best qualified to fight wars. Now let the politicians grovel before them and beg them and cajole them whenever war seems necessary to the politicians. It is the service personnel at war and NOT the id-infested politicians who deserve respect and deference.
We are just getting soooooo inclusive: lavender queens, butches, lipsticks, trannys. In earlier days, men were exempted for flat feet, never mind for moral turpitude, and now we take in just about anyone from the weirdo-American community. Some also want to force women into such service. No thanks.
This "draft them" and "MAKE them fight when WE tell them to fight just BECAUSE WE tell them to fight" is the mindset that emerges from a shameful inclination to even allow women of child-bearing age to be in combat. What's next? Making little girls and old ladies and the physically and intellectually handicapped (differently abled???) do our fighting for us?
Perhaps I was not clear enough. I know we have a volunteer military and I am all in favor of that being the case. Registering for the draft is not in and of itself servitude. As long as the volunteer military continues to be able to man itself all is fine. The draft would only kick in if and when we fell short and extra troops were needed.
It is prudent to have this list since to attempt to start from scratch in a national emergency is a non starter and guaranteed to fail in todays world. I am saying everyone should be on this list and subject to a call up if necessary.
Please let the first one to be drafted McCain’s liberal walking donut daughter. Then we can see how much he likes drafting women. Real men want no part of women in combat or women being drafted. McCain, the spoiled rotten son of an admiral could care less. He was a disaster as a Naval officer and a worst disaster as a republican senator. He’s despised by 99% of veterans groups. The reason? He’s hated veterans since the day he finally retired from active duty and as a senator has consistently voted against them.
“Any country that sends women”
We don’t have to SEND our women any where, the enemy is all ready inside the gates, because we have no WALLS/ BALLS!
The women in my family are prepared, some have joined, a few were in WW2. Those in WW2 were non combat but did have combat close around them, some were in air plane delivery.
You don’t help your point get across by shouting.
I’m happy with my position as expressed above. A society that accepts women in combat as normal is one that has forgotten what a healthy, well ordered community should be. It has forgotten what human beings are, and as such is decadent probably beyond rescue. It needs to be put down because it’s only hurting the cause of authentic human progress, not helping.
McCain is using Alinsky tactics—make your opponent live up to their own rules.
Obama and the left are allowing women into combat roles. McCain is simply carrying their actions to its logical conclusion.
How many 18 year old girls are going to be happy registering for the draft? Maybe it will at least be an eye opener for them.
They should add some text to the registration indicating exactly what they are signing up for:
* The government can force them into military service for an indeterminate period of time.
* Their rights will be restricted during this time.
* The government will have the right to order them into situations where they may be injured, maimed, or killed; they will not have the right to refuse those orders.
Maybe this reality check is what’s needed.
If you are of the school of capitalizing words, is shouting, I don’t. Sorry about that. I did it to emphasize. The fact that I’m eighty my communication skills, may be fading?
When we are up to our (not capitalized) in terrorists, I will not turn away any aid no matter what their sexual persuasion!
I am not asking you to change your position, in any way. Some day though, we all, may have our’s changed for us.
I wish you well!
I give opinions, not advice. Lou Holtz
Because civilized societies have always recognized that women are not sent into war. They nurture and support the family. The feminists went to war against that traditional principle, (drafting women was a feminist agenda from the beginning) and a lot of “conservatives” - such as you - have become feminists.
While I am sure that we agree on most everything, including that Juan McCain is an idiot, your statement is not completely accurate. As an example 22,000 army nurses served in WWI and 3,000 navy nurses. 1,200 of these women died from enemy attack, illness, exhaustion and other causes.
Up until the 1960s the names of all women who completed nurses training were sent to the Red Cross for “reasons of war or disaster”. My mother’s name was sent to the Red Cross when she graduated from nursing school in the 1950s. At that time my mother and all new nurses knew that in case of “war or disaster” they could be required to serve.
When the Army or Navy needed nurses they went to the Red Cross and the Red Cross sent letters out to the nurses that they selected ordering them to report to the Army or Navy for service. The nurses either complied or had to have a legitimate reason, they weren’t allowed to say just that they did not want to. They were effectively drafted.
Somehow this historical fact doesn’t make it into discussions such as this one very often. There is nothing civilized about war, throughout all of history members of “civilized societies” of both sexes have found themselves in the middle of conflicts regardless of their roles in normal society.
Sorry I forgot to italicize those are WilliamIIIs words.
Sorry one more typo:
It should have said,
“During WWI when the Army or Navy needed nurses they went to the Red Cross and the Red Cross sent letters out to the nurses that they selected ordering them to report to the Army or Navy for service. The nurses either complied or had to have a legitimate reason, they weren’t allowed to say just that they did not want to. They were effectively drafted.”
During WWII the services recruited nurses directly and also had a program known as the Nurses Cadet Corp.
There are 99 other senators who don’t have their heads up their asses, I hope.
As I understand it nearly 200 women have died in uniform between Iraq and Afghanistan; if we accept that then make them register for the draft. Those women certainly were no important to me than my male children (in fact, they volunteered).
Candor7, with each virgin there will be a mother-in-law
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Obviously Allah has properly juxtapositioned the precincts of Heaven and Hell!
How Allahyahoo Wackbar of him!
May each martyr experience 72 mothers in law as well!
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