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--and we still keep hearing from the "American needs more manufacturing" gang who say that some guy mopping a floor at GM w/ huge tax subsidies is somehow doing more than a scientist making a cure for cancer --the 'reasoning' being that all services are bad and all manufacturing work is good.  imho they're wrong.   This gang is also wrong to raise taxes on factories' raw imports, outlaw hiring low value U.S. labor, and then not understand why owners go out of business and start over elsewhere.

Related thread: Small Businesses Have Big Job Openings, But Can’t Fill Them.

1 posted on 05/12/2016 4:35:22 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Try to fight a war with lawyer and not a factory worker.


2 posted on 05/12/2016 4:38:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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We have 330+ million people in this country.

Questions for our government:
1) What are they supposed to DO? Burger flipping is out. Manufacturing is out. Is collecting welfare a primary career option?
2) Should we be bringing in millions of low skill workers to add to the mix?


3 posted on 05/12/2016 4:44:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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Honestly ? Semi-skilled assembly-line workers are going away.

Skilled trades ? Not so much, although the skill and training levels required are trending upwards (i.e. mechanics on assembly lines need to upgrade to robot maintenance technicians. . .)

As long as trained skills are required, those factory workers will have stable employment, but are under notice that they have to constantly up their game as well . . .


5 posted on 05/12/2016 4:47:43 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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What an employer pays an employee is no business of the federal government.


6 posted on 05/12/2016 4:49:23 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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Face it.

The $15 per hr minimum wage push is just another tax increase.

Someone good with numbers see what the take would be for the parasites in government if it gets passed.


7 posted on 05/12/2016 4:49:38 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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The solution isn’t to make McDonald’s pay more, it’s to make the taxpayer pay less.


23 posted on 05/12/2016 5:05:46 AM PDT by IronJack
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The regulations in the US are causing manufactures to do only the bare minimal manufacturing in the US, this is mainly just short term work where they aren’t making a long term investment which translates into low wages.

2/3s of the cost of an employee isn’t in their paycheck.


29 posted on 05/12/2016 5:17:33 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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IF your business model includes low wages supplemented by my tax dollars, then you should not be in business to begin with.


31 posted on 05/12/2016 5:21:00 AM PDT by Wolfie
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I worked an assembly line at an auto parts stamping plant for two summers during college. It was work a highly intelligent and well motivated chimpanzee could have done for about an hour before boredom would have sent him into the ceiling rafters of the shop to start throwing feces at the foremen.

On occasion I was hit by little globules of molten metal coming off the spot welders. My gloves were soaked with machine oil and the occasional slip sent the edge of a steel sheet skittering off my wrist leaving a nice even slit. I became somewhat familiar with the nurses in the plant infirmary. I was paid a union wage of $5 per hour, $2 of which was deducted for taxes, health care, uniforms, and dues, and felt lucky to get it. I remained sane those two summers by immersing my brain into the minutiae of doing the simple repetitive tasks before me fast and to perfection. It was almost like Zen.

So I empathize with factory line workers. It's an odd existence. But in terms of the talent and training required vs. the actual value produced during each hour of the individual's labor it really isn't hugely more productive than a burger flipper burning a few dozen beef patties during the same span of time.

38 posted on 05/12/2016 5:59:30 AM PDT by katana
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Sorry Rush, Ted, GOPe, et.al.

THIS is why the voters are rejecting Milton Friedman/Movement Conservative Supply-Side Economics.

They’re done with their thirty year test drive, and it’s NO SALE.


39 posted on 05/12/2016 6:00:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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“...who say that some guy mopping a floor at GM...is somehow doing more than a scientist making a cure for cancer”


I don’t think you can find anyone saying that, much less a gang of them.
The two jobs are so wildly different as to be incomparable in any sensible way.


40 posted on 05/12/2016 6:06:13 AM PDT by citizen (GOPe: The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything)
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Because the politicians have sent manufacturing jobs overseas, leaving no jobs except burger flipping. The way the liberals “solve” that is to demand that burger joints pay $15 per hour.


43 posted on 05/12/2016 6:42:13 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Jihadi-hating CRUSADER. Like it or STFU.)
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The people against the Keystone Pipeline claim that the oil will be converted to gasoline in the US and then sold to China. Even if true, doesn’t that mean that the pipeline increases manufacturing? We take raw materials from Canada and manufacture a finished product: gasoline. And if we sell it to China, isn’t that exporting? Manufacturing and exporting goods and paying taxes and providing jobs? It’s all good.


45 posted on 05/12/2016 7:02:04 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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In the last two months, I’ve walked out of McDonalds three times because the service was so slow. I think they’re cutting back counter staff because of the rising minimum wage.


46 posted on 05/12/2016 7:40:08 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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