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To: DiogenesLamp

‘At this point I have no idea if Trump or any of his companies engaged in eminent domain trickery, but I would find it very strange if there is not some sort of event or incident involving Trump properties upon which this assertion rests.
If Trump has been a boyscout in the real estate market all his life, I will find that surprising. New York is a cutthroat town, and a lot of businesses have to play cutthroat just to survive in that city.’

This is called Magical Thinking. You have zero evidence that Trump “made himself rich by using eminent domain.” zero. Squat. Nothing. The donut.

But because you can ***imagine*** Trump making himself rich by dastardly means, it must be true.

I’m back in Obot land. No matter what the charge against Obama, if an Obot could ***imagine*** a scenario in which Obama was innocent, then ***in fact*** he was innocent. Iow, no evidence required, only imagination and false presuppositions. It’s a sickness.

Re Cruz’ lies. When I entered the discussion, I gave you an example of a straight up, irrefutable, monstrously vicious Cruz lie. It is fallacious to conflate my example with others. My example stands alone.


198 posted on 05/04/2016 4:13:57 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
This is called Magical Thinking. You have zero evidence that Trump “made himself rich by using eminent domain.” zero. Squat. Nothing. The donut.

Took me 10 seconds. First link I pulled up.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/19/donald-trumps-eminent-domain-nearly-cost-widow-house

For more than 30 years Vera Coking lived in a three-story house just off the Boardwalk in Atlantic City. Donald Trump built his 22-story Trump Plaza next door. In the mid-1990s Trump wanted to build a limousine parking lot for the hotel, so he bought several nearby properties. But three owners, including the by then elderly and widowed Ms Coking, refused to sell.

Trump turned to a government agency – the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority (CRDA) – to take Coking’s property….

I won't say i'm shocked, because I know how the big boys play in Cities like New York. There's more. Read the whole thing.

Point is, the image of Trump pushing a grannie out of her house fits in the case of Vera Coking.

Here is the woman:

And here is her house:

Note Trumps unfinished Casinos on either side?

Of course when the Cruz campaign made the ad, i'm sure they theatricalized the event to make it into a better political ad, but the underlying accusation is based in truth.

When I entered the discussion, I gave you an example of a straight up, irrefutable, monstrously vicious Cruz lie. It is fallacious to conflate my example with others. My example stands alone.

If you are referring to the ad you mentioned earlier, I believe the above link refutes the claim that it is a lie. Apparently Donald Trump did engage in eminent Domain abuse.

If you are referring to the "Trump is anti-gun" ad, that wasn't produced by the Cruz campaign. It was an independent PAC that did that.

199 posted on 05/05/2016 11:25:59 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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