True enough. When one of our daughters did something, I can’t recall what, that warranted a slap I grabbed her hand and overlaid it with my own and gave it a hard loud whack. She screamed bloody murder and cried for about ten seconds before she realized I’d hit my hand and not hers. She still got the point. The main thing is humans aren’t born civilized. They require correction.
Precisely..very nice example of true discipline