Posted on 04/28/2016 4:37:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
” In socialized medical systems, the doctors work directly for the state. “
Do I really need to read the rest of this when the number one point is wrong?
Working directly for the state would be a communist system.
Simple economic definition of capitalism, socialism, communism:
Capitalism: Production and distribution controlled by private sector.
Socialism: Production - private, distribution - government.
Communism: Both production and distribution controlled by government.
And the 1 mlion dollar question... How homogeneous is the Canadian population (in culture in particular) compared to the US?
Obamacare is unavailable for enrollment most of the year.
And despite its formal name, its not affordable.
What good is private health insurance if you can’t afford it?
Canada experienced a “brain drain” in the 90’s, largely doctors seeking greener pastures in the US.
My friend died from a simple melanoma because his oncology appointment took months and months. And he lived in Montreal, Canada’s 2nd largest metropolis, not some prairie backwater.
I can remember a few years ago doing research on another topic in Google News Archives when I came across a 1982 article in the Ottawa Citizen. It was about a doctor from Ontario (can not recall where he was from specifically) who got fed up with the Canadian system and moved to Arkansas. I recall him commenting on how he could serve his patients in Arkansas in a more attentive and timely manner than he could under the Canadian system, all sort of things he really noticed that he could do so much more in his practice as a doctor in the U.S. than in Canada.
I cannot say how sorry I am to hear that. It is widely known that the survival rates for cancer are something like one third of what they are in the US in countries that have socialized medicine. The story is not the first such I have heard.
| Ethnic origin[Note 1] | % | Population | Area of largest proportion |
|---|---|---|---|
| Canadian | 32.16% | 7007105638050000000♠10,563,805 | Quebec (59.1%) |
| English | 19.81% | 7006650950000000000♠6,509,500 | Newfoundland and Labrador (43.4%) |
| French | 15.42% | 7006506569000000000♠5,065,690 | Quebec (29.1%) |
| Scottish | 14.35% | 7006471496500000000♠4,714,965 | Prince Edward Island (39.3%) |
| Irish | 13.83% | 7006454486500000000♠4,544,865 | Prince Edward Island (30.4%) |
| German | 9.75% | 7006320332500000000♠3,203,325 | Saskatchewan (28.6%) |
| Italian | 4.53% | 7006148842000000000♠1,488,420 | Ontario (7.0%) |
| Chinese | 4.53% | 7006148758000000000♠1,487,580 | British Columbia (10.7%) |
| First Nations | 4.17% | 7006136911500000000♠1,369,115 | Northwest Territories (37.0%) |
| Ukrainian | 3.81% | 7006125117000000000♠1,251,170 | Manitoba (14.9%) |
| East Indian | 3.55% | 7006116514500000000♠1,165,145 | British Columbia (6.3%) |
| Dutch (Netherlands) | 3.25% | 7006106724500000000♠1,067,245 | Alberta (5.1%) |
| Polish | 3.08% | 7006101070000000000♠1,010,700 | Manitoba (7.3%) |
| Filipino | 2.02% | 7005662605000000000♠662,605 | Manitoba (5.2%) |
| British, not included elsewhere | 1.75% | 7005576030000000000♠576,030 | Yukon (2.4%) |
| Russian | 1.68% | 7005550515000000000♠550,515 | Manitoba (4.3%) |
| Welsh | 1.40% | 7005458705000000000♠458,705 | Yukon (2.8%) |
| Norwegian | 1.38% | 7005452710000000000♠452,710 | Saskatchewan (6.9%) |
| Métis | 1.36% | 7005447655000000000♠447,655 | Northwest Territories (6.7%) |
| Portuguese | 1.31% | 7005429850000000000♠429,850 | Ontario (2.3%) |
| American | 1.13% | 7005372575000000000♠372,575 | Yukon (2.2%) |
| Spanish | 1.12% | 7005368305000000000♠368,305 | British Columbia (1.4%) |
| Swedish | 1.04% | 7005341845000000000♠341,845 | Saskatchewan (3.2%) |
| Hungarian | 0.96% | 7005316760000000000♠316,760 | Saskatchewan (2.8%) |
| Jewish | 0.94% | 7005309650000000000♠309,650 | Ontario (1.4%) |
Data from the same subject matter, though from 2001, is also grouped more geographically by Statistics Canada as follows:[18]
| 2001 | |
|---|---|
| North American (non-aboriginal) | 40.21% |
| British Isles | 33.64% |
| French | 15.89% |
| Western European | 12.78% |
| Eastern European | 8.50% |
| Southern European | 7.87% |
| 2001 | |
|---|---|
| East and Southeast Asian | 6.03% |
| Aboriginal | 4.45% |
| South Asian | 3.25% |
| Northern European | 3.22% |
| Caribbean | 1.70% |
| Other European | 1.28% |
| 2001 | |
|---|---|
| Arab | 1.17% |
| African | 0.99% |
| Latin, Central and South American |
0.82% |
| West Asian | 0.69% |
| Oceania | 0.16% |
Certainly you realize how pointless it is to post that here.
30 million population that can’t handle it....The TAX rate in Kanada is close to 40%.....on average. Screw socialist and government run insurance....This article is pure BS....
If it were true, Canada would be inundated with American doctors .... but alas, reality varies from the fictional spin. Several doctors in our local hospital are professional “refugees” from the Canadian Healthcare system. “Just across the border” American doctors have set up shop to get the “patients willing to pay anything” to get emergency or priority procedures.
RE: Certainly you realize how pointless it is to post that here.
No I don’t, tell me.
I have a neighbor with cerebral palsy who was effectively sentenced to death by the Candian government on their death panels, despite her having plenty of money to pay for her own treatment. Thankfully, she escaped that evil Socialist hellhole. I haven’t spoken to her in a while, but I suspect that Soetorocare is similarly trying to kill her off.
Awesome, thanks for that data. Would you be willing to post similar breakdown for the US. I’m on mobile and have no idea how to format it so nicely.
I’ve had OHIP, the Ontario socialized medicine. You know how, when you go to the post office, most windows are closed but you see postal workers standing around? And if you try to catch the eye of one, they leave? And the ones that don’t, look like you’ve insulted them? And when you do get to the front of the line, the clerk is bored and desultory? Change that from a post office to a medical clinic, and you’ve got Canadian socialized medicine.
As to the accuracy of the article, ask yourself this-—
How many Americans, a country with ten times Canada’s population, go to Canada for medical treatment? And how many Canadians go to the US for medical treatment? Overwhelmingly more Canadians come to the US for treatment they can’t get at home. There are reasons for that.
RE: f it were true, Canada would be inundated with American doctors .... but alas, reality varies from the fictional spin. Several doctors in our local hospital are professional “refugees” from the Canadian Healthcare system. “Just across the border”
This report below is either true or false, but I find it to be opposite to what you said above. Maybe you can tell me what’s wrong here ( The article was written in 2010 <— during the advent of Obamacare ):
SOURCE: http://www.canadaupdates.com/content/more-us-doctors-immigrating-canada-15730.html
EXCERPT:
Since, Canada is facing shortage of medicos in the nation, so, America’s loss seems to be becoming Canada’s gain.
Although, the number of US doctors leaving for Canada is growing significantly, the past few years has also seen a considerable decline in the number of doctors moving out of Canada.
As per the Canadian Institute for Health Information data for the last five years, the doctors immigrating to Canada is far greater than the number of doctors leaving Canada.
Way back in 1990s, Canada, too, had suffered a similar large scale exodus of doctors to America. This was largely due to several Canadian health reforms introduced by the Canadian government.
Doctors in the US feel that their immediate neighbor in the north is an attractive nation to live and work.
This is being attributed to US health reforms introduced by the US government. Moreover, Canada is an attractive place for several foreigner doctors including those from the US since it offers higher payouts to medicos.
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False. That's called communism. Socialism does not require ownership, only control.
Communism IS socialism.
As an Albertan, I find this whole article so full of crap, I don’t even know where to begin.
I can put it simply with these schemes:
They need public support, which means they need a lot of happy people. To do that, if you’re healthy, the system is a dream. But if you’re not healthy, things get tougher, much tougher. If you’re old, well, you get expensive.
Bottom line: Good Prenatal Care for 100 patients means a lot more support, and VOTES, than replacing granny’s hip...and they both cost about the same.
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