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Did Trump Kill Reaganism?
American Conservative ^ | 04/28/16 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 04/28/2016 10:52:33 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Yes, says Bill Galston, contending that “Donald Trump is waging and winning the third major revolution in the Republican Party since World War II.” First there was Eisenhower reconciling the GOP with the New Deal. Then there was Reagan, who wrought a “remarkable fusion of supply-side economics, anti-Soviet internationalism and social conservatism.” And now? Excerpt:

Mr. Trump’s candidacy has showed that the cadre of genuine social conservatives is smaller than long assumed, that grass-roots Republican support for large military commitments in the Middle East has withered, and that the business community is politically homeless.

So it has come to this: A mercantilist isolationist is the odds-on favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination. Whether or not he goes on to win the general election, the Republican Party cannot return to what it once was. The Reagan era has ended, and what comes next is anyone’s guess.

Read the whole thing. Well, he’s right about that, but instead of giving Trump credit for killing Reaganism, I think we would do well to think about the extent to which Reaganism died a natural death from old age, and the extent to which its heirs killed it.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: reagan; reaganism; trump; trumpism
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To: winoneforthegipper

How short the memories. How much misinformation has been infused into what Reaganism was and is? In many ways, Trump is a developing Reagan in the truest spirit. He like Reagan is not afraid of the deal. He is willing to attack problems asymmetrically. For their own glorification, many people have tried to turn the Tea Party concept into a singular political unit that can then be isolated, labeled and attacked. We have seen how well that has worked. They did the same with Reagan, claiming his mantle and using it to project their own brand of conservatism. Look at the wide ranging positions both Reagan and Trump have held and their ability to distill the objective from the rhetoric. There is a great contrast between that thinking and the stilted Faux Conservative who mourns the Reagan that never was.


41 posted on 04/28/2016 11:18:37 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: winoneforthegipper

NO, he is KILLING for once and for all, the Bush doctrine of one world governnment.


42 posted on 04/28/2016 11:20:11 AM PDT by crz
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To: winoneforthegipper

Pretty much.


43 posted on 04/28/2016 11:23:14 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: winoneforthegipper

True.

Trump showed that old school conservatism is a minority in the Republican Party.

Happily, so is Establishmentarianism.

Populism is the majority.


44 posted on 04/28/2016 11:29:51 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All Hail!)
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To: PAR35
Bush I killed Reaganism.

The most accurate thing i've read all day. George Herbert Walker Bush destroyed Regan's legacy.

He did many things to damage it, such as that "Kinder Gentler Conservatism" crap, but the bullet to the head was when He elected Bill Clinton by breaking his word on the tax pledge.

*THAT* was the smoking gun. *THAT* is what gave the Democrats the opportunity to stack the courts with loons. *THAT* is what destroyed the credibility of other conservative candidates who the public now thought couldn't be trusted anymore than George Herbert Walker Bush.

45 posted on 04/28/2016 11:30:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DouglasKC
I think that trump really is a social conservative based on how he lives his life and how his kids turned out. However he does seem to think that legislation of moral views ultimately does more harm then good.

In all of human history, there has never been an occasion when moral views were not legislated.

There is no choice about them being legislated. (forced by law) The only choice is about which set of morals is going to *GET* enforced by law.

46 posted on 04/28/2016 11:34:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JPJones

I hadn’t really thought about this but, if Reagan were here today, who would he endorse? Who would the eternal optimist endorse? Reagan would be a Trumpkin all the way!


47 posted on 04/28/2016 11:39:19 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
More to the point, social legislation is increasingly becoming moot. The SCOTUS continually steps-in and preempts it. A lot of energy gets wasted for no good purpose.

Because there is no downside to eroding the moral foundation of concepts like " Thou Shalt not Steal."

Fiscal conservatives are as brain dead stupid as are Atheists who think they can exist in a world free of Religion.

There is no such world, and I wish all the Fiscal conservatives would grow up and realize you will never keep your money and property if you can't keep the foundation from which these concepts emanate.

You let the morals go, and you will eventually be robbed and murdered by the mob.

48 posted on 04/28/2016 11:40:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: winoneforthegipper

When you just get taken advantage of time and time again, people wake up and whole new assumptions come into play. For me it is “Conservatism does not work for Conservatives” .It works for the country club elites but not for the rest of us. We have accomplished nothing that does not benefit the C of C crowd.It is time for something else to oppose the left.


49 posted on 04/28/2016 11:41:32 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

When you want to know anything about Conservatism, ask Rod Dreher...

50 posted on 04/28/2016 11:41:32 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: ichabod1
I hadn’t really thought about this but, if Reagan were here today, who would he endorse? Who would the eternal optimist endorse? Reagan would be a Trumpkin all the way!

The man who wrote "Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation" would not be supporting someone who has been supporting Abortion for most of his life.

I also doubt he would support someone letting mentally ill men use the women's bathrooms. Reagan was a gentleman and a civilized member of a far more civilized society.

51 posted on 04/28/2016 11:45:04 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Snickering Hound

Dammit!

You just ruined every “Where’s Waldo” book I own!


52 posted on 04/28/2016 11:45:34 AM PDT by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Nonsense, the liberal leftists have spent the last 16 of
their years in office feasting on the Reagan golden goose
while doing their best to strangle it. They came close but
it isn’t dead yet.


53 posted on 04/28/2016 11:49:09 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Exactly


54 posted on 04/28/2016 11:50:02 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: winoneforthegipper

Reaganism died the day he left office.


55 posted on 04/28/2016 11:50:19 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: tet68

Read the article


56 posted on 04/28/2016 11:51:46 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

I did read it. My point is that once the author starts tripping all over his own biases to push whatever is his own agenda, it really is not worth reading. I am settled in that view.


57 posted on 04/28/2016 11:52:18 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: winoneforthegipper

Except he is totally wrong. Trump is the same kind of pragmatist that Reagan was. Trump will govern far better than folks give him credit for.


58 posted on 04/28/2016 11:53:43 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: AndyJackson

K just wanted to make sure you realized the author was commenting.


59 posted on 04/28/2016 11:54:23 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: DiogenesLamp

There is no fiscal conservatism apart from social conservatism because the social liberal mantra is take from one and give to another.


60 posted on 04/28/2016 11:55:45 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Off the NWO)
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