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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
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To: Veracious Poet
Party affiliation? Lol...nice assumption, dumbshit. I'm an Ind. who's voting for Trump. ...albeit while holding my nose, like I've done in every election since '88.

You must get a perverse kick out of flaunting your idiocy. Been doing it for too long now.

481 posted on 04/28/2016 11:21:00 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Still hiding behind your Ind. tagline while waving the white flag?

Time is past arguing among ourselves about the futility of taking the country back from , it' time that PATRIOTS get involved at the local, state and national level

That is, unless you just wanna play internet tough guy, super genius or some other personal fantasy you're obsessed with...

;-)

482 posted on 04/28/2016 11:26:09 AM PDT by Veracious Poet (May God Bless America)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Well Ted lied again today. Told reports there is no alliance with Kadich. Told the crowd that Lasich had pulled out. So he lied about Cardon and is doing it again about Kasich

You did read the oped Ted wrote eith Paul in favor of TPP?

Ted still doesn’t mention borders or immigration in his speeches. And for all the church folks he sure isn’t mentioning DOMA


483 posted on 04/28/2016 11:28:58 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Veracious Poet

White flag? The nationalist policies I advocate make those of either Trump or Cruz look like Obama’s by comparison.


484 posted on 04/28/2016 11:31:05 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Neil E. Wright
We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.

Neil E. Wright, a pox on you, Herschel Smith and Jonah Goldberg!

We can standing against the Globalist NWO cabal's attempt to destroy our national and individual sovereignty. Trump can "Make America Great Again", even taking you freeloaders along for the ride.

485 posted on 04/28/2016 11:37:45 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Adios 5 I’s.


486 posted on 04/28/2016 11:44:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, Tshe Ammo Box Does! What's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thank you, Joe.


487 posted on 04/28/2016 11:45:49 AM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: P-Marlowe; mkjessup

John Anthony Walker, Jr. was a United States Navy Chief Warrant Officer and communications specialist convicted of spying for the Soviet Union from 1968 to 1985.

Walker was an old timer too.


488 posted on 04/28/2016 11:48:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, Tshe Ammo Box Does! What's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: DB; onyx; Neil E. Wright; P-Marlowe; Marcella; altura; mkjessup; All
Thank you Jim for a place for conservatives to meet all these years. It was a labor of love for you and it was greatly appreciated, particularly in those Clinton years that seem tame now..."

Ironic that all this ruckus is being raised against us when all we're doing is trying to prevent another Clinton from taking the White House. The era of Clinton/Obama must end or America is doomed.

I'm praying that most of our FRiends will rejoin the fight for God, family, country after this ugly primary fight is behind us.

God bless.

489 posted on 04/28/2016 11:50:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
As you noted, it is all about their I.
490 posted on 04/28/2016 11:54:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, Tshe Ammo Box Does! What's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: Osage Orange; jpsb; Jim Robinson; nopardons
Let me just say this....Trump will not build a wall on our southern border. It won;t happen.

And illegals here...will not be running to their birth nations.

Not going to happen....and Trump can't/won't make it happen.

Donald Trump could amass most primary votes in GOP history

OO, You keep talking trash about Trump - How about you zip your trap until we defeat Hitlery, -OR- is that who you're supporting now?

491 posted on 04/28/2016 11:57:58 AM PDT by Veracious Poet (May God Bless America)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SaveFerris; ..

Agree 100%

The primary race is effectively over. Neither Cruz nor Kasich have any mathematical method of winning sufficient delegates to be nominated. The only way either of them can come close to the nomination is by making common cause with the liars, thieves and scoundrels that make up the leadership of the GOPe.

The vote coming up in remaining primary states is not a choice between Trump, Cruz or Kasich, no matter what the media talking heads say, it is a choice between Trump or the corrupt GOPe who are prepared to do anything and everything to deny the will of the primary voters who have overwhelmingly chosen Donald Trump over all other candidates, and the numbers prove that.

We are faced with twin enemies: Hillary Rotten Criminal and the treasonous ‘RAT machine, and the equally treasonous GOPe and their Cheap Labor Express toadies who fear American nationalism and the restoration of our sovereign rights and liberties, they’ve been selling us out since the day that Reagan left office, no matter how they’ve tried to revise and re-write history.

If we fail to stop the Clinton Crime Syndicate and their affiliated co-conspirators and dirt bags, we can kiss America goodbye once and for all. We will be in the ‘post-American era’, and there will be no going back. This goes far beyond any hurt feelings or bruised egos, it’s time to unite against Hillary Rotten Criminal and her crew, nothing else matters.


492 posted on 04/28/2016 12:09:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (The GOPe IS the "Enemy Within" !!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

67 reasons to NOT vote for Ted Cruz.

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=9547


493 posted on 04/28/2016 12:15:47 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: mkjessup
This goes far beyond any hurt feelings or bruised egos, it’s time to unite against Hillary Rotten Criminal and her crew, nothing else matters.

Yup. No legitimately willing allies will be turned away, by any FReeper here. We have a nation to save, after all.

But we can't make that decision for you -- ANY of you.


494 posted on 04/28/2016 12:16:53 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx
Ironic that all this ruckus is being raised against us when all we're doing is trying to prevent another Clinton from taking the White House. The era of Clinton/Obama must end or America is doomed.

I'm praying that most of our FRiends will rejoin the fight for God, family, country after this ugly primary fight is behind us.

God bless.

***********************

Amen.

495 posted on 04/28/2016 12:19:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson; DB; onyx; Neil E. Wright; P-Marlowe; Marcella; altura; mkjessup; All; xzins
I'm praying that most of our FRiends will rejoin the fight for God, family, country after this ugly primary fight is behind us.

Most likely it will be over next Tuesday night.

I'm convinced it is over now.

With Carly Fiorina being named a potential H1-B Vice President, I think the people of Indiana will not be in any mood to put TC over the top.

Dumb Move. Unfortunately TC has made a lot of dumb moves, starting with TPA, bringing Glenn Beck on for support, and ending with Carly (Importing people to take American Jobs is great) Fiorina, TC is pretty much dead in the water.

That being said, I think it is very important that we social conservatives hold DT's feet to the fire. I have certain standards for voting "for" a person and if a candidate crosses that line, then I can't in good conscience vote "for" them.

I see Neil is still a member in good standing. That's cool. Maybe we can all get into the business of unifying behind ensuring the defeat of the Hildabeast.

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Marlowe

496 posted on 04/28/2016 12:25:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Grampa Dave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apXSU8F8zWs


497 posted on 04/28/2016 12:28:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: mkjessup

Protect and Survive.


498 posted on 04/28/2016 12:31:03 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: P-Marlowe

string carly = @”the h1 b1 vp”;

Console.WriteLine(carly + “ , it sure sucks to be the foreign supporting out-source queen.”);


499 posted on 04/28/2016 12:32:16 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: P-Marlowe

Maybe we can all get into the business of unifying behind ensuring the defeat of the Hildabeast.


from your lips to God’s ears...


500 posted on 04/28/2016 12:33:33 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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