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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2016carlycruzlol; adiosmofo; election; goawayalreadypunk; opus; primaries; sorecruzerloser; takeballgohome; tempertantrum; trump; trumpsters; vanity
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To: Neil E. Wright; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; ...
Holy smokes, you been ingesting some of that Arizona peyote from out in the desert?

Try the decaf fer gawdsakes. Arizona is going to go for Trump in a YUGE landslide,
think about a long term fallout shelter:

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201 posted on 04/28/2016 12:41:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cry havoc!! And let slip the ZOTS of War!!! ~ General Chang of the House of FREEP)
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To: nopardons

Why can’t they ever go quietly?
They’re never missed ...LOL.


202 posted on 04/28/2016 12:42:32 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
HOPE & CHANGE is so '08; not to mention LEFTY!

When are YOU going to OPUS?

203 posted on 04/28/2016 12:43:12 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Gene Eric

Haha well I can’t argue with that.

Some are worthy of hate though, like Levin. Smart enough to know better, but just dishonest and chooses to pull people down the wrong path.

No excuse for what he is doing.


204 posted on 04/28/2016 12:43:36 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: mkjessup

I had my short say with that one.
Did read past “Trumpsters” in his sorry title.


205 posted on 04/28/2016 12:45:47 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hey Neil,,,, here it is almost 200 comments aftermath and you have yet to attempt to make an example out of any of us. Where are you Neil?


206 posted on 04/28/2016 12:45:54 AM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: DB
Your post is a perfect example.

Of why I’m going after 18 years.

If it were true, I'd wear it as a badge of honor.

Because your guy lost. That's why you're going. And you're trying to rationalize it by blaming others?

So it's my fault you're leaving now, is it? And don't forget my ilk.

You're just so attached to your Messianic vision of the ideal GOP candidate, and you're just so disappointed that the grassroots has decided on someone else, someone you feel isn't worthy, that you can't accept objective reality.

What a bunch of butthurt hand-wringing! Get over it!

Donald Trump has won. Your guy has lost, with good reason, and tha vast majority of People supporting Donald Trump are former supporters of Ted Cruz. Deal with it and get over it!

Most of the nation doesn't feel compelled believe that Donald Trump is the demonic entity which you have conjured in your hysterical minds. Indeed, most of the nation has rejected your slanted characterization of this good and decent man.

If Ted Cruz were to somehow win a nomination he does not deserve, the party would splinter, voter enthusiasm would be destroyed, millions of GOP voters would stay home, and Hillary would win in a landslide.

We're sorry that puts you in the position of being a propaganda tool for the GOPe, but that's not our fault. It's yours.

Like the parrot in the Monty Python skit, your candidate Ted Cruz is an ex-candidate...

Vote Trump

207 posted on 04/28/2016 12:47:03 AM PDT by sargon (Cruz should've focused on EARNING people's votes instead of STEALING delegates that represent them.)
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To: sargon
You Cruz fanboys are the ones who are failing to process objective reality.
I don't think it is a fail. I think it is intentional. We have had a great number of free traders minted here deceptivel caste from the ingots of Ronald Reagan gold, who are now largely open borders, anti-america-only freepers here who have supported wars that as a nation were NOT IN OUR BEST interests. They were in NWO best interests.

It is culmination of an all out attack involving those who were assmilated into the neocon camp, the Bush agenda (which was NOT an extension of the Reagan agenda), and the thousand points of light NWO... feel good give away stuff bush kinder and gentler agenda.

No freepers by and large did not KNOW that was going on and neither did I.

This election is about something entirely different than what it appears to many of us.

It is the realignment of our nation into the the "america only and americans first" party versus the "nwo, open borders, make money via any means, even if america falls" political poles of the nation. Poles as opposite as North and South.

the parties as we know them have flourished the fortunes of the NWO folks while keeping the folks, here in the USA blinded by the "conservative" versus "liberal" paradigms.

And those of us who see that America has been stolen by both parties to get rich and gain absolute power, are now being treated as the "enemy" of the new world state of the NWO.

It's probably academic that we have already lost.

As extreme as Trump seems to the gentle souls who are opus-ing out one after another, he is NOT EXTREME enough and it is FAR TOO LATE. Too little, too late.

Doesn't mean we won't try. And we may win a battle or two... but we are politically outgunned. Every European nation has already fallen to open borders and the invading hordes. Our borders are overrun. We are permeated by the enemies of the American way of life... and we are actually having to call in strikes politically on our own coordinates. It is that serious.

Trump did us a favor folks. We know the truth about our invasion, infiltration, theft of our financial and manufacturing base, and the truth gives us a chance to fight to survive. The evidence is we cannot win outright even within the republican party, even though there is a clear winner who is literally balls to the wall ahead of where Romney was in the last election by most any standard.

YET the Powers that BE within the party, are still planning and plotting to find ways to block his nomination.

If we think they will let him win, or let him take office, we may be sorely mistaken.

Cruz is their fall guy. A bum, but a fool none the less. He believed they would let him swim in the pool for the political caste of which, he will now be spit out.

I don't feel sorry for him, or his followers... but they need to come home, circle the wagons and get ready for the over running hordes...

Even if trump wins by a landslide... I question whether they will let him take the reigns of leadership.

208 posted on 04/28/2016 12:47:05 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: mkjessup
I had my short say with that one.
Did NOT read past "Trumpsters" in his sorry title.

Sorry for multiple post.. puppy on my lap.
209 posted on 04/28/2016 12:47:33 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: mkjessup
What are you doing up?

And who is Neil Wright that any of us should care?

210 posted on 04/28/2016 12:47:34 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: onyx
Wow, I stopped at Trumpsters too.

Do these writers have any idea how stupid they sound, or how condescending they are?

211 posted on 04/28/2016 12:48:33 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: sargon

Your guy has lost, with good reason, and tha vast majority of People supporting Donald Trump are former supporters of Ted Cruz. Deal with it and get over it


that is SPOT ON.


212 posted on 04/28/2016 12:48:41 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: DB
Oh I know, far better than YOU do, what "CONSERVATIVE" means and sadly, now people misuse and abuse that word, here, worse than "racist" has been thrown about.

I'm not going anywhere, I'm staying right here and shan't OPUS, nor be ZOTED. But unlike YOU, id I did leave, I would be greatly missed by many.

213 posted on 04/28/2016 12:48:52 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Neil E. Wright

Sore loser, when you awaken from the trance of the Cruz cult perhaps you will have the moral courage to admit you were wrong and rejoice that a lunatic like Ted was so soundly rejected by the people. God bless you and relieve you of your pain.


214 posted on 04/28/2016 12:51:36 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: onyx; Neil E. Wright

No point in going past the word “Trumpsters”.


215 posted on 04/28/2016 12:51:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: nopardons
But unlike YOU, id I did leave, I would be greatly missed by many.

Delusions of grandeur.

216 posted on 04/28/2016 12:51:57 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Lakeshark
Do these writers have any idea how stupid they sound, or how condescending they are?

Clearly, they do not. I swear, it's as if Cruz devotees are somehow constitutionally incapable, on a cellular level, of seeing just exactly how creepy and weird stuff like this comes across to any/everyone NOT already selling paper flowers at the airport with their heads shaven. ;)

217 posted on 04/28/2016 12:51:58 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: Lakeshark
What are you doing up?
And who is Neil Wright that any of us should care?


I've got this "Impending ZOT Alarm Clock" that keeps going off, it picks up both actual zots and 'potential' zots.

As for the illustrious Mr. Wright, I just found his level of Trump-paranoia to rival that of the far left, all the 'RATS and the GOPe dirt bags as well.

As Spock would have said, "Fascinating".
218 posted on 04/28/2016 12:52:37 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cry havoc!! And let slip the ZOTS of War!!! ~ General Chang of the House of FREEP)
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To: onyx

Oh no worries Onyx, are you up late, or up early? lol


219 posted on 04/28/2016 12:53:27 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cry havoc!! And let slip the ZOTS of War!!! ~ General Chang of the House of FREEP)
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To: onyx
I truly wish that they would !

They all appear to crave attention; any kind of attention. And not a one of them ever posts any facts; only lies and their own "FEELINGS" ! Then they whinge and whine about being a "REAL CONSERVATIVE", which those who don't agree with them 1,000% aren't, evidently.

These two won't be missed; they've hardly been here at all anyway.

220 posted on 04/28/2016 12:54:54 AM PDT by nopardons
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