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To: HiTech RedNeck
Social customs won’t be the basis of what America really needs, which is the miraculous witness of the Lord.

"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

NIV

61 posted on 04/25/2016 3:55:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And they spoke of miraculous times to come.

And don’t ignore Jesus Himself on the subject who said that if the miracles that had been done in Israel had been done in Sodom and Gomorrah — they would have repented.

Now if the two scriptures contradict one another we have proved the bible to be wrong.

But I think Jesus was talking about social effects here, not just the salvation of souls. Your passage is about salvation of souls.


64 posted on 04/25/2016 3:59:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Elsie

At any rate, to use your passage as an excuse to fight against miracles and their documented effect, is like being a spiritual dog in the manger.

God offers miracles out of compassion.

By the way, Jesus was talking about the proposal that the beggar be raised from the dead. Moses and the prophets actually covered the gospel and the miracles that would engender. So you have actually not argued against the needfulness of miracles at all. The Holy Spirit is grieved when you fight against it.


67 posted on 04/25/2016 4:03:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Elsie

What Jesus means here is that if He is not afforded the regard given to Him by Moses and the Prophets, there will not be the necessary belief for salvation. Not that a reading of the Old Testament is all there is to God’s plan to witness to humanity.

This does not denigrate miracles, in fact it strengthens the case for their need. The Christ was going to be the One who wouldn’t simply rise from the dead, but use that as the basis of a panoply of ministry capabilities.


70 posted on 04/25/2016 4:10:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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