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Donald Trump is right about North Carolina bathroom law
HotAir.com ^ | 04/22/2016 | TAYLOR MILLARD

Posted on 04/22/2016 9:30:12 AM PDT by MaxistheBest

AP has already looked at some of the ins and outs of Trump’s comments on North Carolina’s bathroom law, but the fact is Donald Trump is right. This doesn’t mean I plan on replacing my #NeverTrump magnet with a “Make America Great Again” one or start delighting in the idea of a Trump presidency. But I’m okay with agreeing with him on this even if it may be a case of Trump the blind squirrel finding the nut.

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This debate over bathroom access seems like a ridiculous one for this election cycle, and something which could end up hurting more than helping. Trump is right on this issue. It will be more interesting to see if he decides to switch his position in the next few days (much like he did on abortion) to make sure the evangelicals who follow him stay with his flock. It just would be nice if the debate was about debt and spending cuts, not about bathroom access.

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To: Bob434

Rather ironic they think that building a wall will stop this immorality.


101 posted on 04/22/2016 10:47:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: TontoKowalski

No one would know he’s transgender. He would have no problem using the men’s room.


102 posted on 04/22/2016 10:50:08 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert

[[If they look like that, you won’t know they are men, so it’s not an issue.]]

What makes it not as ‘big an issue’ is the fact that for right now, it is illegal for them to expose themselves to little girls in bathrooms, because legally, they are not allowed to use women’s bathrooms in most states- once it does become legal however, it will become illegal to prevent them from exposing themselves to young girls and wives-

Right now they are restrained from doing so because it’s illegal for them to even be in the same bathroom as the opposite gender- A man was just arrested for ‘peeping in a woman’s bathroom’ in a recent article here on FR- but IF it becomes legal for men to use women’s bathrooms. then there won’t be any way to prevent men from even peeping in bathrooms because all they iwll have to do is claim they identify as woman

That’s why this is a big deal- Yes=- perverts do use our bathrooms now, and while it’s still a problem, at the very least, they are being restrained right now for fear of being caught doing something illegal


103 posted on 04/22/2016 10:50:43 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: manc; xzins
Some are so blinded by their hatred of the other guy they can't even see their guy anymore.

I was a Cruz guy until he voted for TPA and TPP and all that crap. It wasn't necessarily that he was in favor of some kind of trade agreement, but that he voted to surrender the Senate Treaty power to Obama that caused me to stop supporting him. I was a Trump supporter for a season until I realized that he was just a snake oil salesman who is going to govern as a thin skinned narcissistic tyrannical lefty rather than as a constitutional conservative. Frankly I doubt he has ever even read the constitution.

I only wish there were an alternate choice. But the book of Daniel tells us that God gives us the basest of men as our leaders. He certainly found the basest of men this time around.

Our only hope is to hold these men's feet of clay to the fire. But nobody will do it. All they care about is the D------ Wall. Newsflash, he ain't gonna build it and Mexico ain't gonna pay for it. And we're not going to do a d------ thing about it.

104 posted on 04/22/2016 10:52:54 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Bob434
As parents, my wife and I didn't allow our children to go to a public restroom unsupervised. So, this wouldn't have been a problem for me.

A transvestite doesn't mean they're flashers. Granted, they're lifestyles are something foreign to me, but I don't believe they're all into exposing themselves to children.

Now, I Googled North Carolina, looking for incidents like you've described. I found nothing.

I also would like to know, do you believe if some nut job wants to expose himself to small children, a law is going to stop him?

Look, I'm really not trying to argue with you. This isn't an issue that's at the top of my list. If it is with you, I suggest you contact Sen Cruz, asking him for specifics of how a President can guarantee protection of public bathrooms in North Carolina.

105 posted on 04/22/2016 10:53:37 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: DLfromthedesert
I agree. However, it is the law that says he MUST use the ladies room.

I want to emphasize that from a moral standpoint, I oppose sex change surgery. However, in the real world I live in, answers to these questions aren't that easy.

So, this "guy" either breaks the law and uses the men's room. Or he obeys the law and causes outrage.

Or, perhaps we don't let this individual pee in public. Or maybe we kidnap "him" and cut off his junk and give him implants and make him be a woman?

There just aren't easy answers to this, and people pretending they have the one-size-fits-all absolute moral, conservative answer on this aren't helping.

106 posted on 04/22/2016 10:55:32 AM PDT by TontoKowalski (You can call me "Dick.")
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To: manc

You were the one attacking Cruz because of who gave him money - I was merely pointing out that your candidate already supports many of the things you apparently find abhorrent and that you seem to think the donor might TRY to get Cruz to support at some indeterminate point in the future.


107 posted on 04/22/2016 10:58:43 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Rational Thought
This sounds logical.

Why has nobody spoken forcefully about perverts using a men's room to spy on little boys?

Back in my Navy days, the base gym was open to civilians, and the guy who had the locker next to mine was creepy as all hell.

That was uncomfortable for me as a grown man. What about children?

108 posted on 04/22/2016 10:58:59 AM PDT by TontoKowalski (You can call me "Dick.")
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To: HarleyLady27

I think Cruz would make a great Czar of bathrooms....


Mostly because he uses them much more creatively than most of us. When I leave a public restroom I just feel some relief. He seems to get more out of the visit.


109 posted on 04/22/2016 11:00:10 AM PDT by Yaelle (Tinkerbelle glittering up the runway for Trump Force One!)
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To: TexasCajun

I think Trump would agree with me. How would you keep men who look like the people in the pictures I posted out of women’s bathrooms? Tell them they have man hands and call 911??


110 posted on 04/22/2016 11:00:11 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: P-Marlowe

We will just go on the slope downwards and people like us and conservatives will become more and more a minority as more and more parents I see never warn or teach their kids anything about the future of the dangers which face our country or morals.
Hell most kids can’t even say excuse me or please.

My daughter just turned 15 and she said she wants to get a job in law, FBI or military as she wants to help people.
My other son has just joined the marines.
My youngest 13 is looking at becoming a cop or military.

All of them want ot help the country and people, and yet we get grown ups who only care about themselves, their money and their power.


111 posted on 04/22/2016 11:00:36 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Rational Thought

[[A transvestite doesn’t mean they’re flashers.]]

Gay people have over 60 partners in their lifetime, and they ‘hook up’ hundreds, if not 1000’s of times, and there is somethign in the gay community called ‘chicken hawks’ predators that look specifically for kids-

I am not suggestion trannies are always gay- I am however suggesting that trannies are just as mentally ill as gay people- if not more so- and when one gives in to such depravity in the first place, what is to stop them from trying other perversions as well?

Why woudl we want to knowingly expose our kids to such perversions and risk when we can easily avoid it?

A parent gets arrested for ‘child endangerment’ because they allow their kids to walk to school- but now this same law turns around and forbids a society to take every precaution to try to prevent such things like trannies abusing kids, flashing them etc?

I’m not understanding the logic of allowing such behavior when clearly parents are arrested all the time for ‘not taking proper enough precautions’ which the state deems a form of ‘child abuse’ or ‘child neglect’


112 posted on 04/22/2016 11:01:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: CA Conservative

attacking all of them if you read it all.

I am sick of all of them , frigging sick of them.

Is it so hard to get somneone to be for the traditioans of the country, the traditions of social issues and be fiscal with common sense while protecting the country from trade deals protecting the border.

hell these issues were not even thought of as out there when JFK was about. Now look at this country.
People defending men to use girls locker rooms, homosexuals paying off candidates, homo parades, illegals get benefits, people don’t pay their taxes and claim welfare for a living.

sick of the crap


113 posted on 04/22/2016 11:03:35 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: RaceBannon

“This debate over bathroom access seems like a ridiculous one for this election cycle, and something which could end up hurting more than helping. Trump is right on this issue.”

“if you still support trump after yesterday, you are a pervert, too.”

The article was the author’s common sense approach to the issue. That’s why I posted it. You should be careful the way you attack people without knowing anything about them. This is exactly why my wife and me don’t support Cruz; drawing hard, strict morality lines gets you attacked just for posting an article.


114 posted on 04/22/2016 11:03:49 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: gogeo

It’s already happening. It’s only going to get worse.


115 posted on 04/22/2016 11:03:50 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: dynoman

The ones that look like that come and go now with no one knowing like you said. I wonder if the ones that look really good still like women or mostly men? Either way, like you said it likely would never come up at all with them.

But what about people who look like Bruce Jenner or worse, or like Jenner are famous and known to still be attracted to women? Should businesses whose women customers are uncomfortable with men in their bathrooms who might or might not like women be allowed to make sure their women customers feel comfortable?

Freegards


116 posted on 04/22/2016 11:04:52 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: TontoKowalski

I don’t think anyone is going to make that person go into a women’s restroom. Nobody is after those who truly look like the opposite sex. In fact if anyone one of them could go and change their birth certificate so that there would be no issue. I mean really, they want so badly the the other gender. Don’t you think they would want to complete the whole transition by changing their birth certificate?
The issue here is not true transgender people. The whole issue is that Charlotte was passing an ordinance to FORCE every facility to allow one gender to go into, say a locker room of the opposite sex, if they just declared themselves as being transgender. Again everyone was being forced by the local government to accept this and comply. This wasn’t just about bathrooms.
The state, although probably didn’t come up with the best plan, had to go into special session to pass the law to stop the local government.
Pretty sure the law will not ban true transgender people from going where they want. They just want to make sure that the local government of Liberal Charlotte didn’t take away the rights of other citizens.
Fact is that Trump spouted off his crap about everything being fine before the law was passed. Everything was indeed fine before Charlotte decided to Put the hammer down (something pushed for by a sex offender on its citizens, to make everyone else accept them no matter what sex they were.


117 posted on 04/22/2016 11:05:17 AM PDT by silly.kerry.trix.are.for.kids
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To: Rational Thought

Thank you, your screen name is very appropriate. A rational voice here. :)


118 posted on 04/22/2016 11:05:57 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Ransomed

What about actual woman who look like Jenner?


119 posted on 04/22/2016 11:06:38 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Not a problem. Not even actual women who look like Jenner who are attracted to women. Women who are attracted to women are lesbians. What are men who claim to be women who are attracted to women, like Jenner is? They aren’t lesbians with male parts, right? Men are different from women in their sexual attractions.

What about answering my question, are women who are uncomfortable with men who might be attracted to women simply out of luck or what? Should their be laws that say businesses can’t make them comfortable using the bathroom or changing rooms or whatever?

Freegards


120 posted on 04/22/2016 11:12:42 AM PDT by Ransomed
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