@inperilous1 @CarmineZozzora @steph93065 @tedcruz @realDonaldTrump Hes stayin in? After saying this? pic.twitter.com/5OevXbfrxq— Gary Pon (@GaryZPon) April 22, 2016
Posted on 04/21/2016 4:44:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Republican Donald Trump is calling on his remaining rivals to drop their presidential bids, saying neither Ted Cruz nor John Kasich has a path to the nomination.
"They should both drop out of the race so that the Republican Party can unify!" Trump tweeted Thursday evening....
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Because it would totally splinter the party and hand Hillary the election.
Please explain for us any scenario, now that Ted Cruz has been mathematically eliminated from securing the nomination, wherein Ted Cruz steals the nomination from Donald Trump, that doesn't splinter the party.
You're not thinking this through. There is absolutely nothing positive that could come out of Cruz usurping the nomination from the clear frontrunner.
If Cruz and Trump were close or tied, things would be different.
But instead, Cruz's foolish pride risks destroying all the voter enthusiasm that Trump has generated, splintering the party, causing millions of Trump voters to stay home, and guaranteeing a loss to Hillary in the general election.
There is absolutely no upside to a contested convention scenario, unless the logical thing happened and Trump won anyway. Without that, the only outcome would be a fractured party, with a displaced frontrunner.
It's totally insane. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. The only solution would be for the GOPe to go "off the board" and select some reliable insider like Kasich or Jeb, which would still wreck the party's chances in November.
The GOPe has engineered a situation, with their toxic character assassination campaign against Donald Trump, that guarantees a Hillary win should he be displaced.
It's a simple as that, and the current state of affairs is entirely the fault of the GOPe and Ted Cruz's ego and narcissism, which now dwarfs that of Donald Trump.
Step back for a moment and think things through as an American. I know Cruz is your man. He is Jeff Head's man too, but Jeff Head sees what will happen should we have a contested convention and Trump not win. That's why he authored his open letter to Senator Cruz, which presents a compelling argument supporting the scenario I've outlined.
Now Ted Cruz's delegate deficit is (and will be) so large that it's very likely that Donald Trump would still get the nomination at a contested convention.
But the risk to the party and the country if that didn't happen is simply too great.
Furthermore, there is absolutely no benefit to doing so.
If you think millions of Donald Trump voters are going to let themselves be disenfranchised by a conspiracy to deny him the nomination (and that's exactly what has been going on, though it appears it will fail) then you must be smoking something both potent and illegal in most states. For medial reasons, no doubt.
As I said: set aside your blind devotion to Ted Cruz for just a moment, and think about what would happen. Suppose Cruz got the nomination at a contested convention. There's simply no realistic scenario that would save the party from splintering irreparably. None.
The strategy makes no sense. It's literally insane!
Do you really want to win the battle, only to lose the war? That is the overwhelmingly likely scenario which you're hoping for.
Essentially, you want to roll the dice with the future of the party and the country, because of your fanatical devotion to Ted Cruz. And that's what Ted Cruz is willing to do, too, which is yet another clear sign that he's not ready to be President.
Donald Trump supporters have nothing on Cruz fanboys when it comes to fanatical devotion, even to the detriment of the party and the country.
I'd like ANY Cruz supporter to explain ANY plausible scenario where this insane tactic doesn't splinter the party and destroy its chances in November.
As far as I'm aware, our leaders don't have those high-tech zapper pens like they had in "Men In Black", which erased a person's memory, and, barring a device like that being used on every Trump voter, a splintered, discouraged, unenthusiastic GOP electorate is the only possible outcome of the nomination being stolen from Donald Trump.
I anxiously await the presentation of any plausible alternative scenario to the contrary.
There is none, because Ted Cruz will arrive at the convention with little more than 700 delegates or so, at best.
There could have been other plausible outcomes, had the "NeverTrump" conspiracy never been launched and executed, but with the way things are, having hopelessly poisoned the well, the GOPe has made its bed, and now it must sleep in it.
And that means that Donald Trump must be the GOP nominee if there's to be any chance of avoiding an electoral disaster in November.
A blind man could see it with a cane.
If the situation between the two candidates were reversed, I would be advocating for Donald Trump to step aside for the good of the party and the country.
Be honest with yourself. You know that is the right thing to do for Ted Cruz. If it's not, then it's incumbent on you provide an argument for that. You can't just cross your fingers and hope and pray for a miracle. That's not fair to the voters, the party, or the nation, and it risks everything.
So fire away...
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If Trump does not have the 1237 at the start of the convention...does this mean he is mathematically eliminated?
Of course there are a bunch of voters left to vote, don’t you want all the votes to count?
LOL
DK
So in 1860, ‘Pub party and the country were deeply divided, just like today.
Same argument made again & again about a conservative not being able to win and to justify a ‘Pub loser being nominated. Trump is the one who would get creamed by the ‘RATS.
A civil war was going to occur in this country eventually, no matter who was elected. Lincoln was no hard line abolitionist, even during his presidency. Likely would have been an easier time of Reconstruction had he not been assassinated...and I’m a proud, traditional Southerner.
Nope. CRUZ was not my first choice. He was my fourth. He is by far the best of the three left.
Of course there are a bunch of voters left to vote, don’t you want all the votes to count?
Get real. This happens every cycle. The proper thing to do once one has no chance at the nomination is to step aside. In that sense, this cycle is the same as any other, and only Ted Cruz's narcissism and a disregard for the health of both the party and the country is preventing the usual course of events from occurring.
I note that you couldn't provide any information to rebut my post. Just snark, and nothing constructive to offer...
Ted Cruz has lost. He has now been mathematically eliminated from securing a delegate majority before the convention, and he will limp into the convention itself with fewer than 2/3 of the needed delegates. His fantasy of garnering the nomination, if successful, would irreparably splinter the party, and guarantee a GOP defeat in November.
As Newt Gingrich so aptly noted, that's simply not going to happen. Not even the crooked GOPe is that stupid.
Vote Trump
@inperilous1 @CarmineZozzora @steph93065 @tedcruz @realDonaldTrump Hes stayin in? After saying this? pic.twitter.com/5OevXbfrxq— Gary Pon (@GaryZPon) April 22, 2016
Unfortunately he’s right. Cruz and Kasich need to drop out. As much as I can’t stand Donald Trump, as much as though of him being President sickens me, Hillary as President sickens me worse.
We have to unite to beat her now.
The Republican Party has been destroying itself for years.
Trump wants it to rise as The Phoenix from the ashes of the smoldering remains of what is left of the GOP and make it Great Again...if it ever was...
Exclusive #NeverTrump Collapsing: Delegates Bound to Marco Rubio,John Kasich Begin Warming to The Donald - Breitbart https://t.co/m3T52dH6iN— The Donald News (@TheDonaldNews) April 21, 2016
He won't be eligible in 2020 either. Or 2024, 2028, 2032, or ever.
After 2018 he won't even be a US Senator.
it’s not fair that we should be required to actually play by the rules, everyone should just drop out and make me king because I’m wonderful- Believe me folks, I’m really really wonderful, and it’s unfair that i should have to abide by the rules-
And your not embarrassed about s guy who can’t win with people voting.
Daniel Webster died. Party split on slavery; South joined Know Nothing and North formed Republican. Enter Abraham Lincoln.
President George W. Bush will be the last Republican POTUS if the party doesn't unify, a desire of many conservatives and socialists.
I believe the party can be reformed, yet it will take a painful process many don't have the stomach or balls for. If it can't be reformed, then it will deservedly die and something else will rise.
Personally, there are bigger things to worry about than people getting offended over something Trump or Cruz says. Democrats make my hair stand up.
He should have thought about unification when he was calling people pathological, liars,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Au contraire, Trump was simply telling the truth. Truth unifies people.
Kasich is helping Trump.
Cruz would be a lot worse.
If that happens, there will be a LOT of CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
Hate to say it but he's right - thre Republican People would be more unified around Trump than anyone else at this time is not for the two spoilers keeping the fan blowing across the manure pile. It's the People who vote in the end and all indications are that Trump has the most support and that Cruz has alienated a bunch of his original base. Non-ending phone calls from the Cruz campaign for money seems to indicate that some of his money folks have been backing off a bit too.
But you can "ROFLMAO" while Hillary redecorates the WH if Cruz is successful in his "I can't win so I'll spoil it all for everyone" plan...
By mathematically eliminated you must mean there is NO path to winning the convention. That is a mathematical certainty. Like it or not, it is an abuse of the word mathematical. Only people who do not understand what mathematics is can use that term in this case. Of course if Mr. Trump can convince a population that it is a mathematical certainty he can win on the cheap. That is what he is good at...doing stuff on the cheap.
If he fails he will whine. Just like he did not complain about the states with caucuses he won, just the ones he lost.
Bad sport if you ask me. Do you think as president he will be able to do the work...on the cheap? Did he just hire a very bizarre character because he has already won?
LOL
DK
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