Posted on 04/20/2016 12:50:15 PM PDT by maggief
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. — The Republican National Committee’s eight state convention threshold rule could be interpreted differently than anyone expects this summer in Cleveland.
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz 97% argue that Ohio Gov. John Kasich could never become the nominee, because Kasich cannot win eight primary contests to be eligible.
However, RNC Standing Rules Committee member Randy Evans told The Daily Caller at the Spring RNC Meeting Wednesday that a nominee does not need to “win” eight state primary contests to qualify to be put into contention — only the support of eight delegations at the convention.
“You do not have to win them. Because the rules says you have to demonstrate support of the majority of eight states as opposed to you have to win eight states,” Evans said. “So theoretically you could have a state — and the precedent is that’s what it was designed to do, which is to permit a state you didn’t win to nonetheless support putting your name in nomination.”
Known as Rule 40b, the eight state threshold came about at the GOP Tampa Convention in 2012, when the Romney campaign pushed it as a way to deny then-Rep. Ron Paul any chance of getting the nomination. The previous threshold was five states.
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And I’m sure if their guy was leading, the GOPe would interpret it differently.
“Is it too much to ask in a news article like this that they provided the exact full text of the rule?”
I posted this two weeks ago, but it’s worth posting again:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3417957/posts
https://cdn.gop.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf
“Rule 40(b) - Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.”
In a literal reading, I agree that Kasich (or Jeb, or Rubio) can be nominated after the first ballot, which is what I was warning about then. The rule specifically refers to the support of delegates, not to the supporters of the voters. This doesn’t even need a rule change. This is one of many reasons why I would like to see a first-round victory for a conservative at the Convention. There are only two real conservatives in the race, and only one with a chance to be nominated in the first round.
BTW, If Trump falls short, I’m hoping for some Trump-Cruz shenanigans in the final days before the first ballot and before the establishment can work their own shenanigans.
Has he bashed Trump yet?
Since the GOPe Rules Committe appear to have decided to do business like a brothel, do they have a red light out front?
-PJ
Ok, as a layman I think it turns on the context of the timing of when this condition is met. Exactly what is meant by:
prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination
and
...affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.”
If this submission can happen before each round of voting or whether it must happen before any rounds of voting is crucial here.
If you read the rules in their entirety, the answer is not specified. I searched carefully for any hint. To allow new nominations after each round of voting would not be usual, but it would also not be an explicit violation of a written rule in the Rules I posted. In short, I expect new nominations unless the newly approved rules specifically prohibit that option. For that reason, conservatives need as many anti-establishment delegates as possible. It's nice if they are bound to Trump, but it's even more important that they be loyal.
RNC “rules members” don’t want either Trump or Cruz, and they’ll bend or break any so-called rules to achieve their aims.
GOP is corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.
Today's presstitutes are social justice warriors. They don't need no stinkin' text.
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