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To: Strac6
I have no trouble with what cops and lawyers are suppose to do. But I have a major problem with how both are trained.

Lawyers are trained in law school how to twist the law not how to respect it. Police are trained in a Us vs Them mentality.

Some wet behind the ears patrolman referred to my Nephew in law (career Marine, Staff Sargent, five combat tours) as a "civilian" who could not possibly understand the pressure he was under. This was after said patrolman had a screaming fit when their very elderly Boston Terrier snuffed at him from behind the closed back window of the car.

There are those of both trades that rise above their training. They seem to be becoming the exception rather then the rule.

If you want me to have respect for the professions then they need to change their training methods.

I see no sign that will happen or that either group gives a hoot.

524 posted on 04/20/2016 3:13:13 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Training, at least for lawyers, depends a lot on the school, or at least it did.

My “trade school” emphasized research and trial prep to the extent no one ever wanted to go against us.

Ted Olsen is a classic example of this. In Bush v. Gore, he would stand in front of Judge Sanders Saul in Talahassee / Leon County or the SCOTSOF, or SCOTUS and in response to questions, recite the citation and the law or case itself, while still thumbing through the books to find the text of the statute or cited case!

Also, work the media. Understand the year 2000 in Florida. Planes for flying the first airborne attorneys brigade to 10 to 20 jurisdictions a day!

There was a protest that came up very suddenly in a district court in the Orlando area. All of a sudden an Orlando Dem/Lib ambulance chaser sued to throw out 2500 (+/-) military ballots because they arrived back late because of the military postal system, or weren’t certified correctly, or other administrative problems with the ballots. Of course, being military they were expected to be predominantly in favor of Bush.

8 of us flew in on 12 hours notice, and I still think our convincing argument (NOT expressed this way) was “Look, Your Honor, do you want to go down as the judge who told 2500 soldiers in the desert of Arabia that they can’t vote for president? TV and “the people” will have a field day with you! All these cases are getting joined up in Leon County (the state capital). Why not just bump this hot potato up there? Why become America’s most hated bad guy?”

He “saw our logic,” and bumped the case to Leon County, and in the end, before SCOTUS, Bush won.

We played a very small part, but when you consider that the final analysis agrees Bush won Florida by 517 votes, a 2000 to 2100 vote swing really counted.


776 posted on 04/20/2016 6:41:20 PM PDT by Strac6 (The primaries are only the semi-finals. ALL THAT MATTERS IS DEFEATING HILLARY IN NOVEMBER.)
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