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To: nathanbedford
The implacable reality: You cannot demand loyalty from those to whom you deny loyalty.

The only implacable reality is that you can't answer a cogent question about your candidate's narcissistic fixation with risking the future of both his party and his country on the nothingburger that is his candidacy, and his irrational desire to artificially and illegitimately dominate a process at which he has failed miserably.

As I suspected, there simply is no satisfactory response to my challenge.

Ted Cruz's best case scenario (winning the GOP nomination at a contested convention at which he arrives with no more than 700 or so delegates) sees him:

Period. End of Story.

That, and nothing conceivably more, is all that Ted Cruz and his fanboys aspire to...

Vote Trump

1,353 posted on 04/21/2016 10:29:36 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: sargon
In rational discourse it should be unnecessary to point out that this "question" is anything but "cogent" and therefore undeserving of an "answer":

your candidate's narcissistic fixation with risking the future of both his party and his country on the nothingburger that is his candidacy, and his irrational desire to artificially and illegitimately dominate a process at which he has failed miserably.

It should also be unnecessary to repeatedly point out that loyalty is a two-way street. The real reason Cruz would be dividing the party is because Trump supporters will not support his candidacy if he is nominated. There is no other explanation. The division will have occurred not because of Cruz who is behaving the same way Republican candidates have behaved since and including Abraham Lincoln, the division will occur because of Donald Trump the man and the kind of campaign he has conducted. It is Trump, not Cruz, who wants to junk the rules in the name of loyalty but the unilateral demand is really in the name of the ego of The Donald.

Trump supporters demand that Cruz and his supporters surrender their cherished values, out of "loyalty." Because we refuse to do so, because we play the game by the rules and expect to win or lose according to the rules, we are told that we are "irrational."

There are many "insane" delegates who will be at the convention who cannot stomach Donald Trump as their nominee. They are authorized under certain circumstances by the venerable and prudent rules of the convention to express their independent judgment with their votes. You expect them to surrender those values on behalf of Donald Trump but you selfishly decline to grant them the same loyalty. You want to change the rules of representative democracy modeled after the United States Constitution and federal system, to please Donald Trump and his followers.

You demand "loyalty" when your candidate darkly warns of violence at the convention if he is not nominated.

Loyalty for me but not for thee.


1,355 posted on 04/21/2016 10:54:50 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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