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1 posted on 04/18/2016 7:43:19 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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Trump is talking about taking it up to about 50% while Cruz’s plan will take it below 47% by making income about $36000 for families taxable. So Cruz will put more skin in the game.


30 posted on 04/18/2016 8:35:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Damn! Makes me feel good knowing that I’m among the “rich”...

So why do I have to budget my beer money?


31 posted on 04/18/2016 8:42:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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We are fast approaching a situation where more people are going to be sitting in the wagon then there is people pushing the wagon...


35 posted on 04/18/2016 8:52:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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More like “Vote for free stuff” and “Eat the rich.”
These are the folks who respond to the politics of envy.


36 posted on 04/18/2016 8:53:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (NOTHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO PAY FOR IS A RIGHT.)
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if you ask me, it should be 100%

the income tax is an abomination


37 posted on 04/18/2016 8:56:40 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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This is my brother in law. Self employed, white, early 60’s, and hasn’t filed a tax return in years. Nothing ever happens to him. His wife gets a monthly check for early retirement and she says they take out $100. She figures it’s some kind of penalty for him not filing for years. $100. Big deal. By now he probably owes north of $100,00.


38 posted on 04/18/2016 8:58:09 AM PDT by uptowngirl
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For those of you who might be interested in what you would have paid in 1913 under the original income tax, you might check out this page which I wrote up a few years ago. It contains a link to a PDF of the actual 1913 tax form and instructions. The entire PDF is 4 pages, and that includes the instructions. Some day I'd like to work up a web form that would let you plug in numbers and do the calculations for you.
40 posted on 04/18/2016 9:00:54 AM PDT by zeugma (Vote Cruz!)
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And the rest of us support them.

If 45% of the American Indians decided not to hunt or grow crops there would have been 45% less to deal with when the EuroInvaders came.

Same thing should happen here. You don’t produce, you don’t eat unless you are sick, hurt or old.


41 posted on 04/18/2016 9:02:58 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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And welcome to another tax day rant that will soon be forgotten.


42 posted on 04/18/2016 9:04:58 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Worse than not paying any share is the incessant carping by this group of liberal parasites that taxpayers are not paying their fair share.


43 posted on 04/18/2016 9:07:20 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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So “we’re gonna cut your taxes” has no popular appeal to 45% of Americans

But soaking the other 55% will never be enough for people like Hillary and Bernie and the FSA (free sh#t army)


45 posted on 04/18/2016 9:10:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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actually, saying it like that is incorrect. to say it properly you'd rephrase to:

45% of all American HOUSEHOLDS pay net zero.

By this it implies 45% of all TAXPAYERS. if you want to say 'all Americans'... the percent changes drastically.

assuming 140m taxpayers (it varies by year, but stays roughly around this number). 45% of taxpayers pay net zero... meaning 63m people. add the nontaxpayers (190m) and you have 253m that aren't paying or pay net zero. and 253m of the 330m is 77%

therefore the correct headline should be:

77% of Americans pay no federal income tax

46 posted on 04/18/2016 9:11:06 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Of course, a federal income tax was not legal in the early years of this country. They had to pass a constitutional amendment to make it possible. One of the selling points was that only the very rich would have to pay, and the original rates were very very low. So this idea that lower income people should not pay income tax is consistent with the original concept, and I have no problem with it on that basis.

However, it was not the original concept that the highest marginal rates would be 35% or 45% or even higher! It was also not the original concept that specific interest groups would be bribed to vote for one party (democrats) over another on the basis of “credits” and other giveaways at the expense of the other groups!


54 posted on 04/18/2016 10:39:58 AM PDT by AC86UT89
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Every citizen should pay taxes even if it is just 5%. Those that don’t shouldn’t get to vote.


55 posted on 04/18/2016 10:41:03 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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So they are projecting out to 2025?

Interesting. I was not aware they could see the future.

57 posted on 04/18/2016 11:09:11 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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58 posted on 04/18/2016 6:57:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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