Posted on 04/18/2016 2:51:08 AM PDT by markomalley
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told reporters at a press conference Sunday in Staten Island that the Republican primary nomination process is “rigged” against him and he refuses to play by the rules established by GOP state party committees he deems unfair.
“I don’t want to play the rule game, because I’ll tell you what, we live in a democracy and it’s all about getting the bosses out. The bosses are picking. Now I’m winning, you will say. I’m wining by 200 delegates. I’m winning, more importantly in my opinion, I’m winning by 2 million votes. In other words I’ve gotten more than 2 million votes,” Trump said, when asked why he does not work within the rules different state contests have.
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz swept up all of Wyoming’s available delegates at the state’s GOP convention Saturday night. Although Wyoming Republican voters caucused on March 12 at local conventions to begin the delegate election process, Trump and his supporters called it a voter-less primary.
A similar situation occurred in Colorado where Cruz delegates won all the open slots to go to the convention through a process that began at local caucuses on March 1.
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus fired back at Trump this week for accusing the party of having a rigged system.
New York Republican Rep. Peter King told Fox News earlier on Sunday that the “system is what it is.” Ohio Gov. John Kasich as well as Cruz could call the New York primary unfair too, should Trump win at least 50 percent of the GOP vote statewide and receive at least 50 percent of the Republican votes in most or all of the Empire State’s congressional districts.
“He may get 53 or 54 percent of the vote, but if he gets 100 percent of the delegates, now, Cruz or Kasich could say, ‘That’s unfair.’ The very nature of a nominating process is always — Iowa has caucuses. Some have open primaries. Others just have local conventions. That’s just the way it’s been and it’s not meant to be easy. Whatever it is, I don’t see it as an attempt to stop Donald Trump,” King said. “These rules have been in effect in one way or another, with their idiosyncracies, for one hundred years. And in some cases, others get changed every few years, but that’s part of running for president. you have to learn how to navigate the minefields,” he added.
Then we need a Constitutionally minded candidate who will facilitate our returning to a constitutional republic.
Also see federalist 51, for “compound republic”
No, actually I’m 100% correct and the fact that I have to keep explaining it is a reflection of the otbers lack of understanding, intellect,and inability to grasp a very simple concept; that being, we are a representative democracy. If this needs to be explained to you, you are a effing retard.
As long as the ESTABLISHMENT is running things we will NEVER return to a constitutional republic!!! Just like WE will NEVER have anyone but a DAMNED lawyer running this nation!!!
If the theocrats are elected, then yes, most definitely. You are still operating under the false understanding that a Republican form of government is somehow incompatible with the democraric principles of holding elections and electing people to represent us. Perhaps you also fail to understand that there is direct democracy and indirect democracy and that we are the latter here in the USA. Do the American people elect representatives or not? We are therefore a democracy. The people we elect are, supposedly, bound to limits established in the constitution. Since we are not an oligarchy or monarchy or dictatorship, we are a republic. Since our elected officials are limited by a constitution, we sre a constitutional republic. Since we elected those representatives, we are also a representative democracy?
LoL
http://wlrn.org/post/how-rubio-made-florida-winner-take-all-state
The winner-take-all strategy on the Republican side was done by design and Marco Rubio can be credited for setting it all in motion.
What does “fight for each delegate”? Who determines which delegate wins?
The grassroots activists in the states determined which delegates won. The Cruz supporters in both states actually took the time to know and understand the delegate selection rules. They they took the time to go to their precinct caucuses and elect other Cruz supporters to be delegates to the district and state conventions. Those delegates then worked together to identify identify those Cruz delegates that were running to be delegates to the national convention. They made sure that all of the Cruz supporters knew which delegates to vote for; they made sure their supporters knew when and where to show up; and they voted as a unified team for the most part. That is called good organization and grassroots effort. They had a majority of the delegates to the state and district conventions because they were prepared and showed up at the precinct caucuses to elect them. They didn't wait until the state convention to start trying to get support and then whine when they learned it was too late to do much about it.
So, are you for rules or against them? If it’s not black and white, then which rules do you like and which do you oppose?
You guys really think Trump feels cheated? He’s playing you like a violin.
You have primaries only. Example: If Cruz wins 60% of the popular vote in a State Primary, he gets 60% delegates. At the Convention, the delegates are loyal to him for three rounds if he does not by the the first or second ballots. If he does not win by the third ballot then it is a free-for-all. If it is more complicated than than you only get approved “establishment” candidates. Cruz, unfortunately, has indebted himself to the GOP/Bush Family/SuperPACs and I consider him now to be part of the DC Cartel. Note, Primaries are not fodder for the Electoral College. The Electoral College is for the election of the POTUS only and gives smaller states equal representation. Primaries is for the election of the candidate to run for POTUS.
I like the full proportional idea, but what do you do with the drop outs? Do they become ‘unbound’?
If so, I think you would find that even in Florida the going would be tough for Trump.
Tell me this: do you think,for one second, that Trump believes the same, convoluted, verbal-acrobatic explanation that "Democracy" isn't exactly a completely inaccurate description of our form of goverment, or did he say we live in a Democracy because he's just a total buffoon, like usual?
Trump speaks words that serve him in the moment.
“2012 FLASHBACK: Trump slams Santorum ‘these lost delegates show that he is badly organized and not a good manager’
“Kyle Cheney of Politico found some tweets from Donald Trump from 2012, where he slammed then-presidential candidate Rick Santorum for not understanding delegate rules.”
For simplicities sake, the delegates of the drop outs would be spread proportionally to the remaining candidates. Unbound candidates can fall into the clutches of the Establishment Political Parties. That is dangerous.
” I’m an Alternate.”
Thanks for getting involved. You got off of your butt and spent your valuable time instead of staying home and whining about the results.
Simple Definition of democracy
: a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting
: a country ruled by democracy
: an organization or situation in which everyone is treated equally and has equal rights
This was fun. Bye bye now.
That might not be too bad. If I had the time tonight I’d run the numbers. Frankly I’d rather they had run offs. The costt for that could get extreme.
Any ideas on timing? I have ran several scenarios around in my head but I thing regional would be better than the current patchwork system. First and last regions based on Republican representation statewide and nationally.
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