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To: onyx

You are disregarding what has Trump so flared up.

Cruz has sewed up the second ballot, and the primary is not even over, no convention dickering will be needed.

Attention to detail, and precise maneuvers.

That is exactly the kind of man that makes America great.

Trump brought his checkers to a three dimensional chess game.
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371 posted on 04/13/2016 10:24:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You’re Delusional. Attention to detail? Are we talking about the guy who didn’t know he was a Canadian citizen? Or, shall we file that under precise maneuver?


374 posted on 04/13/2016 10:39:40 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: editor-surveyor

Great, so lets say we give you your point.

Now what about the election.

As a northeaster, I suspect you are going to see how unpopular Cruz is on the 19th and the 26th. Of course I could be wrong and hope I am, but I think what you are going to see based on the respective dem/repub primary totals is the following:

1) PA is competitive, with more votes on the republican side than democratic.

2) same is true for new Jersey (June 7th), Connecticut and possibly Maryland.

possible but not likely:

3) New York is actually competitive for the republicans, last time that was so was in 1984.

The above is true for trump at the head of the ticket. Now from what I see on the ground Cruz does not have a shot at these votes for the following reasons. Of course I may be wrong, but this is what I hear:

1) Trump is concerned about the loss of industrial middle class Jobs, Cruz is not.

2) Trump is serious about immigration, Cruz may or may not be.

3) Crus has great plans but hey are unrealistic. A lot of his proposals are like that.

Example: He is going to get a flat tax. Not a chance in heck, that removes congresses very lucrative lobbying game.

4) Cruz want to raise the retirement age to 70. Now a lawyer might be able to keep working until 70, but only about 15% of the manual labor class can. Result: lowered retirement benefits for folks on the bottom.

The ugly truth is that the none of the Cruz folks want to deal with this. You go on and on about polls, and Cruz’s ground game, but it is tone deaf in the northeast. He looks like his for bankers, lawyers and other riff raff. he does not seem to live in the same living space as the middle class here.

Cruz may play well in the Midwest, but by the same token Trump lays well in the northeast, he gets folks concerns here, and apparently in the south as well (east of the Mississippi).

If fairness I think Trump is weak without Cruz. So the only ticket hat makes sense is Trump/Cruz in 2016,Cruz at the head in 2020. Both sides get something and we have a half a chance to fix the problems in this country.


376 posted on 04/13/2016 10:43:02 PM PDT by Frederick303
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To: editor-surveyor

Like Cruz, you misunderestimate the irretrievable loss of “good will” Cruz is self-inflicting with every underhanded delegate maneuver.

Oh, Cruz can cite “the rules,” but disenfranchised voters don’t give a rip about RNC rules.

Voters will only care that their votes didn’t matter.

Cruz can play chess all by himself and his scant following.

Say “Congratulations President Hillary.”


383 posted on 04/13/2016 11:06:50 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Cruz has sewed up the second ballot, and the primary is not even over, no convention dickering will be needed.

Delusions of grandeur, but let's just take your thinking out a bit:

The math: Trump, if he doesn't go over the top in the first ballot, will likely be less than a hundred delegates short, likely around 50 or less.

Cruz, will have somewhere between 800 and 900 delegates going in, likely closer to 800. That's if the next two weeks go as forecast, and these states are actual votes that the pollsters have been pretty good at.

Okay, so with that math going in, how does Cruz ever win? Answer: Two ways.
1. He is so well liked, and so compelling, he finally pulls the GOP together and they all go kumbayah and vote him over the top.
2. He cuts a deal with the GOP elites, they pull out all the stops, ram him through, and have a newly minted, newly bought candidate.

So.....since we all know #1 will never happen, the math alone should give you a hint (along with his not so likable personality), that means the only way he wins is with scenario #2.

If he does that, and it will be clear if he does that to win, it will be known, it will be obvious, and it will put a fissure in the party that will blow it out of the water worse than the Whigs were.

If that happens, say goodbye to your ass as it flies further away from you. If that happens Ted Cruz will be hated on the right, by members of the right for a generation or more.

I realize you can't see this, and thankfully it looks like Trump WILL get the delegates to go over the top on the first ballot.

If he doesn't stop after this next two weeks when he is mathematically eliminated, good luck getting Cruz elected to dog catcher after this run.

400 posted on 04/14/2016 12:12:36 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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