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Cruz is likely to block Trump on a second ballot at the GOP convention
Washington Post ^ | 04/13/2016 | Ed O' Keefe

Posted on 04/13/2016 5:09:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is close to ensuring that Donald Trump cannot win the GOP nomination on a second ballot at the party’s July convention in Cleveland, scooping up scores of delegates who have pledged to vote for him instead of the front-runner if given the chance.

The push by Cruz means that it is more essential than ever for Trump to clinch the nomination by winning a majority of delegates to avoid a contested and drawn-out convention fight, which Trump seems almost certain to lose.

The GOP race now rests on two cliffhangers: Can Trump lock up the nomination before Cleveland? And if not, can Cruz cobble together enough delegates to win a second convention vote if Trump fails in the first?

Trump’s path to amassing the 1,237 delegates he needs to win outright has only gotten narrower after losing to Cruz in Wisconsin and other recent contests, and would require him to perform better in the remaining states than he has to this point.

In addition, based on the delegate selections made by states and territories, Cruz is poised to pick up at least 130 more votes on a second ballot, according to a Washington Post analysis. That tally surpasses 170 delegates under less conservative assumptions — a number that could make it impossible for Trump to emerge victorious.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: convention; cruz; gop; trump
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To: dartuser

His support is already tanking

Nobody wants to vote for a candidate that celebrates a victory where he and his buddies rigged an election.


41 posted on 04/13/2016 5:39:57 AM PDT by arl295
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To: IrishBrigade

Where in those “184 year old rules” does it say second place wins?


42 posted on 04/13/2016 5:41:33 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Pollster1

They should be friends and allies, and we should treat both of them as such.

If Cruz wishes to be a friend and ally to Trump, he will drop out as soon as he is eliminated from first round contention, throwing his support to the frontrunner...but he will not.

Instead he will cling to the lifeline afforded by the archaic selection process, in the mistaken belief that he will beat the opposition, and Trump will not...and in fact, if that is the GOP objective, both Trump and Cruz will be bypassed in favor of Kasich, who polls far better...


43 posted on 04/13/2016 5:41:51 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump will simply run 3rd party . The Tin Foil Hat Party. Actually - on the crazed thread just pulled about Cruz's dad being involved in the assassination of JFK - one of Trumps supporters came up with a better name for his supporters and the new part name will be The WHIM Party.
44 posted on 04/13/2016 5:42:11 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: SmokingJoe

Same as # 1. Plus Rubio is already formed an alliance with Cruz in some states. Rubio likes Sleazy tRump like he likes plison.


You’re having a day dream. Trump got 1.1 million votes in Rubio’s state. Won every county but one. Rubio is not crossing Trump because it would be the end of his political career in Florida. LOL.


45 posted on 04/13/2016 5:42:51 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

46 posted on 04/13/2016 5:42:59 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: dartuser
You are underestimating the Tea-Party base and conservatives.

The delegate hunt will continue right up to and including the convention.

Best case scenario is a shotgun wedding...Trump/Cruz.

Okay...air fuel bomb wedding.

Might want to add a couple of armored divisions just to make sure they get to the “you may kiss the bride” part.

heh

Jedi

47 posted on 04/13/2016 5:43:37 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The simple fact is if Trump fails to get the 1237, Cruz gets the nomination no later than the fourth ballot when Florida’s 99 delegates will be free to vote as they please.
With their total control of the rules committee both Trump and Cruz will allow no others to be on the ballot. So all these GOP-e conspiracy theories about anyone else getting the nod is bee esss...unless they totally ignore the rules and destroy the party—and we all know they ain’t got the guts to do that.
Regardless, people will finally see how underestimating the political genius of Ted Cruz pays out.


48 posted on 04/13/2016 5:43:38 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest thing we have to Reagan." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

49 posted on 04/13/2016 5:44:00 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

50 posted on 04/13/2016 5:47:10 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Flick Lives

[Cruz is no longer a real candidate. He will be mathematically eliminated next Tuesday from winning the candidacy]

There are delegates from all the also rans that will be applied to some candidate.


51 posted on 04/13/2016 5:47:14 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: dartuser

Trump ain’t getting the 1237 either and Cruz will beat him in Cleveland.
You think Cruz is so stupid to drop out when he knows he is gonna win?
If Duh Donald does get the 1237 THEN Ted should drop out...but it ain’t gonna happen.


52 posted on 04/13/2016 5:47:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest thing we have to Reagan." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Trump20162020
Ok then. Going by your advice, Sleazy tRump should withdraw in June when it becomes mathematically impossible for him to gwt to 1237. Given that Ted Cruz has absolutely no intention of withdrawing, that will make it even easier for Ted Cruz to win.
53 posted on 04/13/2016 5:48:10 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

My understanding and it could be wrong, is that if Kasich drops out, per State rules his delegates from Ohio revert to the No. 2 candidate who is Trump. So he does not have to do anything for Trump to get his delegates just stop running.

And Kasich has teamed up with Trump against Cruz already....

So would a Governor want to be owed a huge favor by a sitting president who is running on bringing back manufacturing to America?


54 posted on 04/13/2016 5:48:32 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: mkjessup

Geez, where is my pic of trump with his tiny hands and pacifier in his mouth?

You can ignore the punditry, many whom have said if he does not win 1237 Cruz wins in the second round. We won’t know until June 7th.


55 posted on 04/13/2016 5:49:08 AM PDT by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: jersey117

All part of the Donald/Hillary DEAL.
We are still the stupid party.


56 posted on 04/13/2016 5:49:59 AM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest thing we have to Reagan." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: cincinnati65
Since when is second place winning? When you’ve got a slick attorney?

Well, 2nd place worked for George W. Bush in 2000.
57 posted on 04/13/2016 5:50:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: cincinnati65

Where in those “184 year old rules” does it say second place wins?

I guess you haven’t been keeping up with the news...but, to help you out, those rules permit a redo of the whole process (excepting, of course the people voting) if the arbitrary threshold of majority of delegates is not reached...thus allowing a second place finisher to kiss up to enough delegates in order to gain that majority...

this system allows backroom wrangling and strongarming to take place, stuff that was common in the 1830’s, but should have been modernized to reflect a popular vote as the methodology; but that would eliminate the power for party bosses, so...


58 posted on 04/13/2016 5:51:19 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: MHGinTN

There is a limit on what Trump could do, but that limit is not terribly restrictive when it comes to a billionaire courting 2,000 delegates.

How much difference could a $2,000 family vacation in Miami, NYC, or Vegas, with brief daily visits from Trump family members and his staff, plus at least a few minutes talking with Trump personally about each delegate’s concerns and their district’s needs, make in a delegate’s willingness to vote Trump?

How much difference could a weekly meal with the state’s Trump campaign coordinator, or with a local or national celebrity who endorsed Trump, make in loyalty or in willingness to switch to Trump? Dinner with Sarah Palin, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Mike Ditka, or Clint Eastwood? I’d be impressed!

Two thousand delegates at $2,000 each for vacations is $4M. Two thousand delegates at another $2,000 each spread over several meals takes that to a total of $8M. In terms of campaign expenditures, that is small. It’s also completely legitimate in terms of standard practice for this phase of the campaign. It’s not bribes, just consultations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

There are a lot of endorsements for Trump. He should use them, and they get a chance to help out and to meet interesting people in return.


59 posted on 04/13/2016 5:52:18 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: mac_truck

6 years as Solicitor General of Texas running over 700 lawyers says HELLO!


60 posted on 04/13/2016 5:54:21 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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