Posted on 04/13/2016 4:58:03 AM PDT by McGruff
Delegate shenanigans are roiling both Democrats and Republican primary races.
For instance, Hillary Clinton seems to be very adept at snagging more delegates than Bernie Sanders even when Bernie wins.
Ted Cruz had been playing this inside game for a while now. A prime example was his loss to Trump in Louisiana, which nonetheless gave him an equal number of delegates, and an opportunity to collect even more.
And Donald Trump is now screeching about Ted Cruz cleaning Trump’s clock in Colorado, where Cruz took all 34 delegates in a Republican convention held on Saturday.
(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...
Aw Jeeze! And they are working so hard for the faithful comrades in the party.
And the whining continues.
“Its not fair! Its not fair!” the states determining their own political processes AS THE US CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES THEY CAN by not saying they can’t.
Geez, what a bunch of whiny big government fascists.
I would say at this point....because of the internal issues of the Democratic Party as well...there’s no choice but to move onto multiple parties....maybe five or six of them, and force some extreme changes. We need options to vote for some other party.
This guy is not telling the whole truth—indeed perhaps not any of the truth:
http://www.goodfellowllc.com/free-stock-market-content/curious-case-missing-colorado-delegate
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So Cruz maneuvered, and plotted, and got his people named as Colorado delegates.
And there was never a vote among Colorado Republicans.
Instead Cruz won 34 delegates in a system in Colorado that didn’t even bother to ask voters.
A rigged system?
Certainly looks that way.
Is that the way Cruz voters want him to win?
I guess they don’t mind. It’s Trump who’s complaining, not Cruz.
But expect Trump to start calling Cruz by a new name. Lyin’ Ted will be out. Sneaky Ted will be in.
Maybe it’s not Ted Cruz’s fault.
But it definitely is the fault of the GOP in Colorado. Cutting out voters makes the party look corrupt.
And, which citation from the Constitution “guarantees” the states’ abilities to “determine their own political processes”?
I happen to believe that the current primary process is un-Constitutionally using tax money (AKA: The Federal Treasury) for their “private and associative” choices.
Maybe we can go back and redo Nevada didn’t hear much whining after that selction
Shame on him. What is happening, and has happened in CO for far too long is bad enough. This year is worse because they did not even allow a straw poll.
In 2012, CO’s straw poll was for Santorum. But, somehow, delegates were for Romney.
This year no straw poll at all.
The anger and frustration come from those people who couldn’t cast a vote and know that if their side won the voting process, the delegates would represent them.
You know, representation of you.
What happened in CO highlights the major problem with Republicans at the national level. We voted, over and over now, to overturn business as usual in DC. We have sent in so called Tea Party candidates, turned out the establishment.
And lo and behold, that candidate gets to DC and votes opposite of everything they promised on the campaign trail.
In the bigger picture Trump walked on this deal. If he had stayed and gotten any delegates it would have been acceptance of the system. By walking and forfeiting the delegates he can bring attention to the no representation and lack of voting by we the people. The disenfranchisement of the American voter
The party working of both parties is now in question He is successfully tying in Bern’s lack of delegates which will draw many of his supporters, when they too are disenfranchised by the super delegates to the Trump cause
He is going to win in a landslide in the fall We The People have had enough of corrupt party practices
Stop being dramatic [and wrong]. No one was disenfranchised in Colorado. Trump voters just didn't bother going to the caucuses.
Wait till Trump and his supporters hear about something called the Electoral College. That'll really p*** them off.
Let's just finish the takeover of the Republican party first...and go from there.
why should he when he was cut out by the GOPe?
then they bragged about doing just that.
A lot of people are learning that a primary is a party event governed by party rules. The general election, however is a government event, governed by the laws of the land.
Too bad for Ted that he rig that, and try to get elected President with 28% support.
Too bad for Ted that can't he rig that, and try to get elected President with 28% support.
To me, this constitutes “taxation without representation”.
If they can do this, what’s next? The elites pick the Governor? The senators/congress? Impose new taxes and regulations?
A dangerous and anti-American precedent has been established. The camel’s nose is in the tent. Before long other liberal states will try the same trick, then Presto, we’re a third-world nation.
Hillary and Obama will love it. Bernie will think it’s all his doing. The GOPe will writhe in orgasmic spasms whilst cashing their K-street checks.
The next step will be the elites appointing the President with all elections cancelled.
The country “of the people, for the people, and BY THE PEOPLE will be a thing of the past.
After that, the party elites will cancel the Constitution and all of our fought-for rights will go away. Guns, bibles, and wealth will be confiscated.
We will become Cuba II.
Where’s the FEC on this? Where are the federal lawsuits? Where are the riots and uprisings? Where is Congress?
Are legalized pot Coloradans so stoned they don’t see what’s happening?
Taxes pay for your right to vote! The Colorado delegates should be declared null and void. Otherwise, what’s the difference between this and Hilary’s “super delegates”?
“Stop being dramatic [and wrong]. No one was disenfranchised...”
You need to watch the CNN video linked currntly at top of page on Drudge to see the 10-second cattle call “speech” by prospective delegates, and the 600 number bingo card to elect delegates. That was just the show for the anit-trumps to get together in the back room and all pick the same numbers of known Cruz hardcore supporters.
That was NOT a caucus. Prospective delegates couldn’t hardly say their name and ballot number in their alotted 10 seconds in front of the group, much less communicate a coherent thought regarding their choice of candidate.
Any number of legitimate Trump supporters (there were some) not in on the collusion of picking the chosen ones out of 600 would not have changed the pre-ordained outcome of 100% Cruz delegation.
After watching, you may want to recalibrate your opinion of who is wrong, and who was disenfranchised.
The GOPee and the RATs are mentioned in the constitution?
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