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Ted Cruz risks primary disqualification in N.J. resulting from charges of ballot access fraud
gloucestercitynews.net ^

Posted on 04/10/2016 8:21:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Ted Cruz risks primary disqualification in New Jersey resulting from charges of ballot access fraud. A primary ballot disqualification hearing is scheduled by the Secretary of State for Monday, April 11 at 9:00 a.m. in Mercerville, New Jersey.

Washington D.C. Law Professor Victor Williams charges that Ted Cruz fraudulently certified his constitutional eligibility for office to gain ballot access. Williams demands that Cruz be disqualified from several late-primary ballots: "Cruz committed ballot access fraud in each state when he falsely swore that he was a 'natural born' American citizen." Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada and held his resulting Canadian citizenship until May 2014. Cruz is a naturalized (not natural born) American citizen.

Williams' fraud charges had quick effect in New Jersey. Rather than accepting Cruz's ballot petition when filed last week, the Secretary of State ( Kim Guadagno) scheduled the unusual Administrative Law hearing for April 11. The Canadian-born Cruz must prove that he did not falsely certify his eligibility for office.

Cruz's ballot eligibility is also being challenged in California, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Oregon, South Dakota, and Washington.

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To: eastforker

“Except Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada, not the USA.”

No, Ted Cruz is and can be both.

Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen of the United States.


641 posted on 04/11/2016 1:47:02 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: eastforker

All of the children of the Founders were BOTH natural born citizens of the United States as well as qualified to be citizens of England.

In fact the Red Coats came back in 1812 to rejoin the colonies to the United Kingdom.

All of those who wrote the COnstitution had children who could be EITHER natural born citizens of the USA and also citizens of England — at the same time.


642 posted on 04/11/2016 1:50:52 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: Moseley

The Constitutional ommittee used Vattel’s description of a natural born citizen in Article II. They had already named Vattel’s Law of nations in Article I. They ALL KNEW WHAT it meant, since they all studied and had access to the Law of Nations, the preeminent authority on International Law at the time.


643 posted on 04/11/2016 1:53:05 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Moseley

Hell, he isn’t even a natural born citizen of Texas.


644 posted on 04/11/2016 1:53:24 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Moseley

I’m retired, you apparently ain’t.


645 posted on 04/11/2016 1:56:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: mkjessup
I ROTFL at " The law in effect when Ted Cruz was born went back to the original 1790 version, except for eliminating the distinction between father and mother."
646 posted on 04/11/2016 2:04:32 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mkjessup; Cboldt; eastforker; Mollypitcher1; RoosterRedux; Moseley

>>FR Moseley LIES and says the Bill was sponsored by two liberal Democrats. Reality sponsorship is 28 Republicans!

“Are you aware that Texas was seeking to disqualify foreign born / ineligible citizens from the General Election Ballot?”

..(d)AAThe secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate ’s original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen...

Free Republic patriots, Moseley has a hard time accepting the truth.

Here is the reality of the Texas Bill:

Relating to certification for placement on the ballot of candidates for president or vice-president of the United States.

The Bill was sponsored by four(4) Republicans, with 24 Republican sponsors.

Leo Berman
primary
(Republican)
District 6

Ken Legler
primary
(Republican)
District 144

Charlie Howard
primary
(Republican)
District 26

Lyle Larson
primary
(Republican)
District 122

Charles Anderson
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 56

Jimmie Don Aycock
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 54

William Callegari
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 132

Gary Elkins
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 135

Allen Fletcher
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 130

Rick Hardcastle
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 68

Linda Harper-Brown
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 105

Dan Huberty
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 127

Bryan Hughes
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 5

Jim Jackson
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 115

Tim Kleinschmidt
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 17

Leo Berman
primary
(Republican)
District 6

Ken Legler
primary
(Republican)
District 144

Charlie Howard
primary
(Republican)
District 26

Lyle Larson
primary
(Republican)
District 122

Charles Anderson
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 56

Jimmie Don Aycock
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 54

William Callegari
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 132

Gary Elkins
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 135

Allen Fletcher
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 130

Rick Hardcastle
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 68

Linda Harper-Brown
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 105

Dan Huberty
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 127

Bryan Hughes
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 5

Jim Jackson
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 115

Tim Kleinschmidt
cosponsor
(Republican)
District 17

Lyin’ Ted breeds Lyin’ Moseley.
Do not respond to me again Mr. Lyin’ Moseley.


647 posted on 04/11/2016 2:15:41 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Just mythoughts
-- The Framers knew darn well what 'natural born' meant --

No they didn't! They used terms that they figured would create confusion and mayhem! That's why they are called flounders!

648 posted on 04/11/2016 2:25:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

They knew. And every one has understood perfectly well what the requirement meant until the ugly head of globalism sprung up.


649 posted on 04/11/2016 2:36:21 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Cboldt
No they didn't! They used terms that they figured would create confusion and mayhem! That's why they are called flounders!

I do appreciate your sense of humor...

650 posted on 04/11/2016 2:47:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Darn right they knew. If you study the progression of anti-RKBA in this country, you’ll find a similar pattern.


651 posted on 04/11/2016 2:47:26 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Moseley

The constitution is not a dictionary. Only one provision has a specific definition, and that is treason. Somehow we have managed to impeach persons for high crimes and misdeameanors and promote interstate commerce without a constitutional definition either.

You are acting as though the framers did not have a common understanding of NBC. They did just as they knew what “well regulated” meant. The definition was taken from Vattel’s Law of Nations. That was THE treatise for understanding of terms of governance and diplomacy. That is the exact selfsame book that George Washington kept overdue from the NY Library for 250 years until it was discovered.

The only Congressional definition of NBC was that phony ass non-binding Senate Resolution 511 authored designed to give cover to McCain and by extension, Obama. Cruz nor Obama met THAT weak standard, (2 citizen parents) and they have NEVER defined NBC with regard to Article II, Section 1, clause 5. It is LONG overdue for resolution. So I say let’s adjudicate the matter in a competent court in an adversarial proceeding. Or do you fear the outcome?


652 posted on 04/11/2016 2:47:45 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Cboldt
Cruz's parents apparently presented his claim for US citizenship to the US authorities, who adjudicated the claim in light of the evidence presented.

Your word "apparently" jumps out at me. When did this happen and have we seen the documents that prove it? Do you think that Dems will just "let it go" if there is not verifiable proof?

653 posted on 04/11/2016 2:49:03 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame
-- Your word "apparently" jumps out at me. When did this happen and have we seen the documents that prove it? Do you think that Dems will just "let it go" if there is not verifiable proof? --

I use the apparently because there are stories that Cruz traveled abroad on a US passport.

For purposes of his eligibility on the antiquated notion that the constitution and laws will actually be applied, whether or not he has a passport or CRBA isn't important. He can be excluded from the class of NBC without finding him a citizen or not a citizen. There is no need to get to the point of finding him a citizen, because even if he is, he is not a natural born citizen.

For purposes of his citizenship, a CRBA or passport also isn't necessary, but they would be the simplest evidence to produce.

It has happened that the state department has improvidently issued a CRBA, for example on fraud, misrepresentation of parents (e.g., claim one person is daddy, but really a different person is), so the presumption of citizenship associated with holding a CRBA or passport is rebuttable.

I don't think the DEMs will push on plain old citizenship, which, if he lacks it, removes him from the Senate and makes him either Cuban or stateless. There are a few reasons i think they don;t go there, and maybe don't challenge NBC at all.

One is that both major parties are part of the globalism transition team, and both parties want to eliminate the NBC clause. A really good way to eliminate it is to change the public perception of what it stands for.

Another reason is that all they really need to do is beat the GOP nominee for the presidency. Cruz is and will always be a minor force in the Senate. If the DEMs try for "too much," they can lose it all; much as Obama birthers lost it by focusing on born in Kenya (proof hard to come by) instead of dual citizen at birth (admitted fact).

654 posted on 04/11/2016 3:12:44 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: jdirt
when you type in a word I the search, select ‘key word’ and it should pull up more than just titles
655 posted on 04/11/2016 3:18:57 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Moseley
Nothing in those statutes say who is NOT a natural born citizen

THAT'S THE POINT!

Natural born is NOT defined by statutes passed by Congress because Congress ONLY has authority to make citizens through the process of naturalization. Natural born are defined by “nature” hence the term “natural”.

now go read your bible as God set forth the natural order of a child's nationality in the beginning and the nationality follows that of the father, NOT the mother

656 posted on 04/11/2016 3:23:14 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Moseley

“So that proves that Congress has the power to define natural born citizen”.

The constitution, and the body of legal decisions and practices arising from applying it, creates the common law jurisprudence arising from that common law document. All black letter statutory law legislated in accordance with Article I, Section 8 are enacted to specifically define the common law. No constitutional provision can be modified by statute absent the Article V amendment process.

The intent of Article II, Sec i, clause 5 was to protect the office of POTUS from undue and baleful foreign influence, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. This reflects the patriarchical belief of the framers, derived from the vattelian notion that the citizenship condition of the children followed that of the father.

This is NOT some kind of civil rights issue. Article II was not meant to be inclusionary. It revolves around whether or not we continue this reckless path of failing to invoke the protections of Article II against usurpatious creatures like Obama or anyone else, particularly a glib tounged “strict constitutionalist” like Cruz claims to be.


657 posted on 04/11/2016 3:23:31 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: itsahoot

Yes Cruz has posted his birth certificate and his mother’s.


658 posted on 04/11/2016 3:39:05 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Moseley
You need to take medication, Jake.

Seriously strong medication.

By your tone and by your words, you have made very clear to me that you are an unstable ass.

If you are representative of the Cruz Clan, it is no wonder your ilk are viewed as a reprehensible gaggle of useless and mindless buttmonkeys.

659 posted on 04/11/2016 4:02:18 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Moseley

LOL! Your misunderstanding of standing is pathetic. Do you even know what standing in a court of law means? It means you could be damaged. That’s why all these individuals who have sued BHO and gone to the SCOTUS got kicked to the curb. No standing. The DNC Can easily cause enough of a stink to keep Cruz off the ballot if all he can provide is a Canadian BC and a passport.


660 posted on 04/11/2016 4:11:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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