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To: SMM48

“A natural born citizen is a child born of TWO citizen parents on U.S. soil or military base (overseas)”

Close but no cigar. Let me fix it for you:

A natural born citizen is a child born of TWO citizen parents on U.S. soil.

As I have said in the past on numerous occasions. To be an NBC, without question, for absolute certainty, is to be born of 2 citizen parents in one of the lower 48 states.

Alaska & Hawaii are too new as states that someone could be old enough to have been born there when they were territories. Territories and possessions have different citizenship applications and applicable laws that “MAY” be a problem as to natural born citizen status.

Being born overseas on a military base or embassy makes no difference. Natural born MUST be born in the country, on US SOIL. (an embassy or military base ARE NOT US SOIL!)

The only difference is that you would be born a NATIVE citizen not requiring to be naturalized when returning to the US. That’s IT. NOT “natural”, NATIVE.

McCain was NOT eligible. He was born in a FOREIGN country just like Cruz was. McCain was not even born on a military base. He was born in Colon hospital, Colon Panama, not even part of the Panama Canal Zone. (which doesn’t matter anyway, the Canal Zone was NOT a US territory).

All these things are VERY complicated. “Common knowledge” on this subject of citizenship and especially natural born citizen status, are ALWAYS WRONG. Without intense study nobody knows about this.


118 posted on 04/08/2016 6:23:16 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

You are right about being born on a military base overseas. My two daughters were born at S. Ruislip AFB in England and I needed to file for a CRBA with the Embassy to declare their American citizenship. I was informed by the Consul that they are not NBC.

You are wrong about McCain. Children who acquired U.S. citizenship or U.S. nationality at birth in certain territories of the United States during relevant time periods are not eligible for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. They are not eligible because such persons are not considered to have been born abroad.

Panama Canal Zone was one of those. Ref: https://citizenpath.com/consular-report-of-birth-abroad/


338 posted on 04/09/2016 10:18:56 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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