[HiTech RedNeck]

There is “no hope” for any lost person, in exactly the same way you use the phrase. The bible also says so.

So what is the process of trying to get the lost, unlost?

Refusing to get involved is counterproductive to this.

[castlegreyskull]

There is always hope. Jesus is willing to forgive all sins.

[No_More_Harkin]

I’m sorry Red, I don’t quite follow you.
I’m lost on this: “Refusing to get involved is counterproductive to this.”