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We talk about Club for Growth, we talk about these groups that are out there pushing offshoring, there’s a reason why they’re aligned behind Ted Cruz — and this needs to be understood: the reason why Obamatrade became law is because of Ted Cruz. During the early pivotal moments of the fight when Jeff Sessions — and I was working for him — was out there warning the country about the living agreement [of the Trans-Pacific Partnership], about the transnational commission [established by the TPP], about the loss of U.S. sovereignty, Ted Cruz not only wrote an op-ed with
1 posted on 04/06/2016 10:14:35 AM PDT by central_va
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That is actually true. Cruz said TPP was OK.


2 posted on 04/06/2016 10:15:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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Weren’t there lots of last minute amendments to this one?


3 posted on 04/06/2016 10:18:07 AM PDT by I got the rope
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ping


4 posted on 04/06/2016 10:18:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Guess those substantive speeches he’s going to give haven’t been written yet....


6 posted on 04/06/2016 10:20:16 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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Did TPP become law? I know TPA/Fast Track passed but I thought TPP was still out there.


7 posted on 04/06/2016 10:23:52 AM PDT by Kenny (e)
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TPP is worse than anything I have ever seen.


8 posted on 04/06/2016 10:28:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Sorry, anything that comes out of the Trump campaign now are nothing but the rantings of a madman.

Trump’s cheese has slid off his cracker.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 10:31:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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Why is it so hard to understand TPA and TPP are related but separate issues and that so called "fast tracking" of trade agreements (TPA) and treaties is normal? If this wasn't done it would be virtually impossible to gain approval of any such agreements. If what I've read about TPP is correct it should and will be voted down by a combination of Conservative anti-globalization and pro-labor Liberal members.

If Congress allowed its members to propose amendments to initialed agreements the entire negotiation process would have to begin over again. That essentially takes the constitutional authority of negotiating a treaty out of the president's hands and into Congress'. That may be appealing with Obama in the White House but sets a bad precedent for the future. Equating passage of TPA with passage of the agreement itself is misleading. Some people doing it out of ignorance. Others know the difference but just want to use confusion on the subject as a hammer against certain candidates.

12 posted on 04/06/2016 10:31:57 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinion)
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Globalist Establishment Brother Ted Cruz
13 posted on 04/06/2016 10:32:41 AM PDT by vikingrinn
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It’s the usual deception. Vote it out of committee knowing that it will pass, then vote against it on the floor.

Typical Uniparty garbage from Cruz the globalist.


19 posted on 04/06/2016 10:54:14 AM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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The ignorance by Trump supporters of the TPA and TPP is stunning and would be shocking if it came from any other source.

TPA passed, Cruz having voted against it on final passage but he had voted for is on a crucial cloture vote which as a practical matter assured that it would pass.

TPP, the actual treaty, has not been brought before Congress yet. Cruz is declared his opposition to it and will vote against it. Instead of two thirds of the Senate required to approve it, and instead of senators empowered to offer up amendments, the proposed treaty must pass the House and the Senate by majority vote and without a filibuster.

Steve Miller and most of this article are deliberately deceiving. This article fails to tell us that the majority of trade deals have been negotiated on identical fast-track basis. This has been done for hundreds of years by the United States. Indeed, no treaty could conceivably get through the Senate by two thirds vote if senators, bribed by K St., are entitled to offer amendments. Our trading partners have declared that they would not negotiate with our representatives if our representatives did not have fast-track assurances because they are not fools and they know the certain fate of any trade treaty offered up for ratification. That fate will be dependent not on fairness of the treaty on its merits but on the powers of special interest groups manifested in the Senate. Our trading partners know they would simply be negotiating against themselves under those circumstances and they wisely declined to play.

Cruz and Fifty-nine other senators who voted for TPA (on its first appearance) for the reasons Cruz wrote in the op-ed article in the Wall Street Journal. Those reasons include the dire consequences for the American economy if a trade deal is not consummated. The country goes into a depression without trade. No TPA, no trade deal, no trade deal, look out below. The contemplated treaty affects 40% of the world's trade, that runs in to the trillions of dollars every year.

The Pacific Rim countries and made it clear that they were disinclined to negotiate such a trade deal with America in the absence of fast-track authority which had been the practice on these trade deals the memory of man runneth not to the contrary, hence TPA.

It is a question of balance of imponderables, would Obama come back with a terrible deal, if he did would be impossible to stop under fast-track? Would it be more difficult to stop under fast-track which requires approval by a majority in both houses as opposed to two thirds of the Senate? If so, if the trade deal proves to be as bad as it apparently is, why cannot a majority in one house or the other be found to stop it?

Weigh this against the certainty of no trade deal and Cruz' decision is quite responsible and in keeping with the majority view about trade among conservatives for quite a while. This visceral, mindless opposition to trade is faithful to the ravings of Donald Trump but it is repugnant to classic conservatism.


22 posted on 04/06/2016 11:04:46 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Sen. Cruz is but one of 100 vermin in the senate. And almost all of the other 99 can’t stand him. To say Sen. Cruz is responsible for anything the senate did or didn’t do is sheer lunacy from Mr. Trump and his campaign staff.


33 posted on 04/06/2016 12:01:35 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Donald Trump is the reason for every Democrat in the White House starting with Jimmy Carter


34 posted on 04/06/2016 12:11:39 PM PDT by Cyman
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Yes, he voted to give Obama fast track authority.


39 posted on 04/06/2016 12:45:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Obamatrade has not passed. Fast track authority did pass.


40 posted on 04/06/2016 12:46:12 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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