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IS THE CRUZ CAMPAIGN MORAL?
WND ^ | 4/4/2016 | David Kupelian

Posted on 04/04/2016 8:10:36 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Here’s a simple question that desperately needs an answer.

Donald Trump won the Arizona primary in a landslide, 47.1 percent to Ted Cruz’s 24.9 percent, giving the GOP front-runner all 58 of that winner-take-all state’s delegates.

Right now, the Cruz campaign is engaged in a “furious” on-the-ground campaign in Arizona – and in other states won by Trump, including Louisiana, Georgia and Tennessee – to convert Trump delegates into Cruz delegates on a second ballot, should there be a contested GOP convention this summer.

The question is: Is this moral?

Trump calls it “crooked as hell.” But let’s back up a little.

As the Washington Examiner reported Monday, in a story headlined “Cruz snaring Trump’s Arizona delegates” and posted in the lead position of the Drudge Report:

Sen. Ted Cruz is out-hustling Donald Trump and looks set to ensure many Arizona delegates will defect to him in a convention floor fight.

The Texas senator, who ever since Iowa has played a stealthy ground game in contrast to Trump’s chaotic populism, is taking steps to snatch the Republican presidential nomination from The Donald at the convention in July.

The New York businessman easily won last month’s Arizona primary taking 47 percent to Cruz’s 25 percent, scooping up all 58 of the state’s delegates. That’s nearly 5 percent of the 1,237 Trump needs for the nomination, and they’re tied to him on the first ballot.

But Cruz, exploiting deep opposition to Trump among grass-roots Republicans, has been far more active in Arizona than Trump, insiders say. He’s recruiting candidates for the available 55 delegate slots, that along with the other three delegate positions filled by party leaders, would be allowed to vote for him in a multi-ballot contested convention.

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To: JPX2011

Well said.


221 posted on 04/04/2016 9:40:54 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

and if you think Cruz using the rules is not a bad thing, then why criticize Kasich for using the rules and getting rid of 40-b so he could be the nominee without getting the majority of delegates in 8 states.. he is just smarter than Cruz and using the rules to his advantage right?


222 posted on 04/04/2016 9:41:15 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: altura

Will you vote for the Republican candidate if it is not Trump?


I will follow the Romney Rule and write in my preferred candidate. If Romney is good enough for Cruz he should be good enough for me.

Or maybe I will vote for a non Trump GOP POTUS candidate because it really won’t matter and don’t want to be “blamed” for Hillary. Cruz or another GOPer won’t be elected POTUS in 2016 after elected GOP leadership colluded with Democrats to stop Trump. Down ballot is where the action is and I most certain will not be supporting a single GOPer if the nom is stolen from Trump.

Trumpers are in a win-win situation now. Either we get Trump as the nom or the GOP wing of the uniparty dies. Win all around. What’s not to like about that?


223 posted on 04/04/2016 9:41:29 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: House Atreides
No one is whining, we are just stating the facts.

I can't wait for next week to see the Cruz guys whining when he will officially be unable to get to the necessary number.

224 posted on 04/04/2016 9:41:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: grania

Do you think the Democrats are moral? Do you think ISIS is moral? Do you think foreign leaders we are in conflict with are moral?

We need someone smart enough and tough enough to beat our enemies foreign and domestic, yet still follow the rules (also known as the Constitution). Cruz is the only one in the race who can do that.

If Trump doesn’t have what it takes to compete in that arena he needs to step to the side. Politics ain’t bean bag.


225 posted on 04/04/2016 9:42:10 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Cottonpatch
That's got to be one of THE all time stupidest posts EVER posted to any thread on Fr; EVER !

There is NO national "CONSERVATIVE PARTY"; there's the GOP, which has moved far away from its origins. Add to that, the fact that Cruz is a FRAUD and hardly "conservative" at all.

226 posted on 04/04/2016 9:42:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JPX2011

And if Cruz can’t win the nomination fairly his only hope is to stop Trump from doing it so he can then steal it at the convention.


227 posted on 04/04/2016 9:42:57 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Outlaw76

156 posts and not one explains the basis of calling Cruz actions amoral.

Just because you find something to be against your desire does not make it less than moral.
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Look at what Obamacare did to the Democrats....that will be a drop in the bucket compared to what will happen to the Republican Party if the GOP “steals” this nomination from “We The People.”

The Dems had the power and rules to go against the American voters and FORCE Obamacare on us....look at what those rules got them!


228 posted on 04/04/2016 9:43:20 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Carthego delenda est

True!


229 posted on 04/04/2016 9:43:53 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: JediJones

Too bad he can’t get the voters to vote for him!


230 posted on 04/04/2016 9:44:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: altura
He voted for the TPA, he voted for the Corker Bill, Cruz does what he is told to do, by his big donors and the GOPEers and then pretends that he did/did so for good reasons.

There's LOTS about Cruz that's "dirty" and "underhanded" and "nasty"!

231 posted on 04/04/2016 9:45:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: altura

It’s just an expression.

It means come out from the dark side of the Trump obsession and vote for the really good candidate.


Oh I thot it might have a lot of Mormon/Dominionism overtones...

Sorry, I find it pretty insulting...I am not in the dark nor on the “dark side of the Trump obsession” just because I am supporting Trump.

BTW, this language that you and others use...such as “dark side” and “Trump obsession” ~ just the sort of stuff that we don’t need around here.

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232 posted on 04/04/2016 9:46:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: Outlaw76

Yes, exactly, Cruz may be able to stop Trump from getting the number necessary and then steal the nomination, but he would have lost the war in the general election.


233 posted on 04/04/2016 9:46:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: nopardons

Don’t worry, next week we hear about the Cruz ‘surge’


234 posted on 04/04/2016 9:46:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: freespirit2012

When did I criticize Kasich?

But if you think he’s smarter than Ted Cruz ... that’s a little weird.


235 posted on 04/04/2016 9:47:15 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I can't wait for next week to see the Cruz guys whining when he will officially be unable to get to the necessary number.

Why would we whine? As long as he keeps Trump below 1237 delegates, Cruz will pick up the nomination. Trump is getting outworked at the state level when it comes to delegate selection, and after the first ballot, there will be a tsunami of bound Trump delegates that will abandon him in favor of Cruz.

Remember the story of the tortoise and the hare - Trump has jumped out to an early lead, but it will be Cruz that crosses the finish line at the convention.

236 posted on 04/04/2016 9:47:37 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Trump is far more honest then Cruz, that is why he is so feared by the elites.

If Cruz was really that conservative, would the elites be supporting him ?

237 posted on 04/04/2016 9:48:06 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: bushwon

It was just a suggestion.

Relax.

I’m not gonna hurt you.


238 posted on 04/04/2016 9:48:07 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: House Atreides

So Cruz will end up nominated with 1273 delegates in 2nd vote but no voters to go with those delegates. Great plan. Not! I hope Cruz knows it takes more then 1273 to win the general. What a mess Cruz is. If he gets 10 million votes in the general it will be a shock and well more then he deserves.


239 posted on 04/04/2016 9:50:39 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: JediJones

I’ll go ith Trump with money matters every time.


240 posted on 04/04/2016 9:50:49 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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