Posted on 04/02/2016 5:53:44 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
Two days after GOP presidential contender Donald Trump caused a firestorm after walking back his statement that women who have illegal abortions should receive some form of “punishment,” he said during another interview that abortion “laws are set,” and they should be left that way until changed.
In an interview on CBS’ Face the Nation – the broadcast of which will be aired on Sunday – Trump again attempted to clarify his views to moderator John Dickerson.
When asked by Dickerson – from a pro-abortion perspective — “What would you do to further restrict access to abortion?” Trump responded, “The laws are set now on abortion and that’s the way they’re going to remain until they’re changed.”
“A question was asked to me. And it was asked in a very hypothetical,” Trump explained about his prior MSNBC interview with Chris Matthews. “And it was said, ‘Illegal, illegal.’ I’ve been told by some people that was an older line answer and that was an answer that was given on a, you know, basis of an older line from years ago on a very conservative basis.”
When Dickerson mentioned a prior Bloomberg interview during which Trump reportedly said he believed abortion should be banned after a certain point in pregnancy, Trump replied, “I would’ve preferred states’ rights. I think it would’ve been better if it were up to the states. But right now, the laws are set….At this moment, the laws are set. And I think we have to leave it that way.”
“Do you think abortion is murder?” Dickerson asked. After considering the question for several moments, Trump responded, “I have my opinions on it, but I’d rather not comment on it.”
“You said you were very pro-life,” Dickerson followed up. “Pro-life means that…abortion is murder.”
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Any candidate campaigning on overturning Roe v Wade is pandering for votes ( especially a Senator disliked by ALL of his colleagues)
A man who tells the people the law of the land is here to stay, the options for change reside now in the powers of the states, and criminalizing the act means criminalizing the actors ..... Is being scorned slammed ridiculed marginalized and abandoned by his party
Sound about right?
Oh there’s that other pure conservative after all
The one who speaks in platitudes and makes promises he cannot realistically keep
What a refreshing difference
Oh, Trump is SO brave! He told the world abortion should stand and told the NY Times his wall building is a sham.
What fools!!
The long term challenge will be to overturn the decades of moral decline that have so many accept that the death of a baby is a "choice"
If you simply go for changing the law without working to educate those the abortion industry targets for aggressive marketing, the laws will be ineffective. Much like the laws on speeding--when is the last time you drove on the freeway during the daytime in good weather and observed everyone doing the speed limit? Also, if you even mention overturning the abortion laws, the pro-abortion lobby will come out in force, talking about the "war on women", etc., because we let them own the language on this topic.
If we want to overturn the laws effectively, we have to first own the issue. We have to talk about abortion as exploitation of women. We have to talk about how damaging it is to women's health. We have to talk about how the abortion industry cares only about profit, not human life or even women's health. We have to get young women to question whether "doctors" who murder children without a second thought really care about them and their health. We are making progress against the abortion industry (abortions are down by more than a third since the peak of 1.7 million per year), but we have to accept that it is still a struggle and simply overturning the law is not going to win the issue.
That is exactly my point.
Cruz knows that there is no chance that Roe vs Wade is going anyplace as long as Roberts is Chief Justice of SCOTUS (after all, Ted had a hand is making sure he could be confirmed). Cruz knows this better than Trump does, in fact.
I just checked Wiki - Roberts is only 61 years old. He’s probably got another 25 years on the court!
When you hear Cruz pander about Roe, understand that he hopes his audience is as ignorant as he believes they are. It’s quite cynical, but not unexpected.
The first steps are 1 change the judiciary; 2 change education; 3 allow Christians to exercise the bill of rights. On all 3 Trump has indicated going in that direction: His judicial suggestions; Making Education local getting rid of common core, and repealing the 501c3 gag order on Churches.
Right now his top contenders are Judge Judy, Judge Wapner and Judge Reinhold. They are all tremendous people and would make fine Supreme Court justices....
Indeed they are. That is why PP, after handing out ineffective contraceptives, "counsels" girls who then return for a pregnancy test, to get them to be receptive to the idea of abortion, before actually doing the test. Then, as soon as the test comes back positive, they pressure the girl to abort right then--they do not want her to have any kind of time to think. It takes a lot of effort to suppress those motherhood instincts.
I do think, however, that the instincts are weaker in those who eventually succumb to PP's high-pressure sales tactics. The silver lining in this cloud is that when a girl has an abortion, she is less likely to have a living child in the future (for a few reasons, psychological as well as physical). Thus, the genetic trait of weak motherhood instinct is being weeded from the gene pool. That's Darwinism at its finest.
I am tired of the useless BS from DC dirty lawyer like Jeb Cruz.
He is a despicable power hungry DC lawyer -insider.
You can win small battles like no federal funding of abortions but 50% of the country
Sadly want to stay then it’s a stalemate on a ban.
Today’s Technology and drugs make any ban useless anyways .
It’s a sad fact in 2016.
Well said. Education is the key to change. I’ll add one more thing: since black babies are aborted much more likely than others, this is racially-charged at the black’s disenfranchisement, as PP’s founder Margaret Sanger intended.
If there were ever a noble use for the Bully Pulpit and a call for leadership and moral courage, this would be about the epitome.
[Paradox: Trump is portrayed as a bully but on this topic lacks conviction, whereas Cruz is unwavering and clear. Big point for Cruz on this issue.]
Males, who selfishly benefit the most from the opportunity for knocking up women for pleasure without personal consequence, are the ones society and government should hold to account. Far more women would keep their unborn if their partner was man enough to commit, marry and support them. Far more males would be MEN if held to account informally and formally and the perverse incentives for single motherhood were abolished.
Meanwhile, in the selfish silence of all too many, Planned Parenthood and NARAL ghouls have created the most macabre business model since George Soros made his first pocket change selling Jews to Nazis.
One wonders how much alcohol Hillary truly consumes to drown what may be remaining of her conscience.
“Making Education local getting rid of common core,”
? He thinks the feds should be in control of education and is one of its top roles.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/29/donald-trump-security-healthcare-and-edu
From the size of his hands, The Donald obviously has a very big d*ck - and he now in the process of stepping all over it...
No he never said fed nor was he asked fed exclusively. The question was untied States Government roles. Until the dumpbing down of education that always meant Fed, State and Local aka “These Untied States and DC”
But then when one has a bad education they are easy to trick like your were here
You’re wrong the democrats say they want absolute abortion rights and that nobody has an abortion. They lie.
No “conservative” Presidential Candidate has ever said they’d try to overturn Roe vs. Wade.
This changes nothing.
Like Lying Ted will do a damn thing about Abortion.
The “laws are set” on Obamacare. The “laws are set” on many things in Trump’s platform. Is he admitting none will be addressed?
Hmm, I keep Trump's campaign site open in another tab as a quick reference, but I didn't see those. Did he state those plans in speeches, or are they buried in one of the six policy statements, and I haven't seen it yet? (TBH, I have only thoroughly read the statements on immigration and health care--he has good ideas on both subjects.)
I'm agnostic on that question. Leave aside the moral question. As a matter of law and legal philosophy, Roe was wrongly decided. The Constitution says nothing about abortion. If one were going to torture out a constitutional inference on the question, it would be pro-life on 14th amendment grounds. That would be a stretch, but not nearly so radical as the abortion license invented by Roe.
Bottom line: Roe is a defining example of the "make it up as you go along" school of jurisprudence. That is why the issue won't go away, as long as at least some Americans are unwilling to abandon the idea that the Constitutional has a cognizable meaning, and that judges ought not to simply impose their own policy preferences willy-nilly.
There is nothing wrong with Trump stepping on his big dock. It is how he gets to his yacht.
O.O
Not sure if they are on his site, he was attacked for his judicial picks awhile back with the angle he was going to appoint his sister, so he gave out 3 names all constitutional conservatives in appearance. This was awhile back would have to search the threads to find it.
His getting rid of common core and making it local has been in pretty much every rally speech.
Only recently did he hit the 501c3 issue in a Wis rally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY6KnSqotp8
Trump Exposes Government Controlled Churches
If true and carried out this will change back the culture of America.
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