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To: DiogenesLamp; rarestia
Another example of how Apple's LIE was so successful. Nobody was asking for keys. Apple would keep all keys, but Apple did everything they could to make certain that nobody understood this, because if people understood that Apple would retain complete custody of everything, they wouldn't have been able to gin up the fake outrage.

The liar here is you. The Court order was quite specific that Apple would have to supply to the FBI any software it developed. READ THE COURT ORDER using ENGLISH, not DiogenesLampese. It was quite explicit. You've been reading what you've wanted into that very simple language for over a month.

Verbatim from Magistrate Judge Sheri Pym's Court Order, written for her by the FBI's legal counsel:

“. . . providing the FBI with a signed iPhone Software file, recovery bundle or other Software image File (“SIF”) that can be loaded onto the SUBJECT DEVICE. The SIF will load and run from Random Access Memory (“RAM”) and will not modify the i/os on the actual phone, the user data partition or system partition on the devices’s flash memory. . . The SIF will be loaded via Device Firmware Upgrade (“DFU”) mode, recovery mode or other applicable mode available to the FBI.”

From the dictionary:

Root word for "providing" is PROVIDE (verb)

1: the foundation will provide funds: supply, give, issue, furnish, come up with, dispense, bestow, impart, produce, yield, bring forth, bear, deliver, donate, contribute, pledge, advance, spare, part with, allocate, distribute, allot, put up; informal fork out, lay out, ante up, pony up. ANTONYMS: refuse, withhold.

2: she was provided with enough tools: equip, furnish, issue, supply, outfit; fit out, rig out, arm, provision; informal fix up. ANTONYMS: deprive.

3: he had to provide for his family: feed, nurture, nourish; support, maintain, keep, sustain, provide sustenance for, fend for, finance, endow. ANTONYMS: neglect.

4: the test may provide the answer: make available, present, offer, afford, give, add, bring, yield, impart.

There is no other reading of that word that makes any sense other than that Apple would have to give the software to the FBI. . . no matter how much you sing, dance, and use a ventriloquist dummy to put words into the mouth of the Court order, it just isn't there to say what you claim it says! Again, as I've said before, Diogenes would be a whirling dervish in his grave with your antics.

85 posted on 03/31/2016 5:24:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker
Not going to play your silly game. What you posted was a suggested method. The filing said that Apple can use any means they want to accomplish the task. It said Apple can keep complete custody of the phone.

The head of the FBI even clarified that Apple does not have to give the government any sort of software at all. I've already posted the link to you before, so you can look back in your history if you want to see it.

I know that you don't want to see it, so i'm not going to bother hunting it up for you again.

Apple was allowed to accomplish the task in any manner they wished, and were permitted to do so without transferring any software to the government. None. Zero. Zilch.

If Apple chose to do something stupid like that, well who is the FBI to tell them not to do it?

99 posted on 03/31/2016 6:30:29 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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