[Mrs. Don-o]

Ah ha! The only way to do that, is to have the woman testify against the abortionist. There absolutely has to be an aggrieved woman.

Pre-Roe, abortion prosecutions were generally triggered by the appearance of an injured post-abortion woman in the ER. There are still injured post-abortion women in ER's --- legalization of abortion didn't make it any safer for the woman: antibiotics did that --- excerpt that now it doesn't lead to a criminal charges being brought against the abortionist. That has to change, because woman complainants are the key to nailing the abortion operators.

Alternatively, you don't have to proceed just by illegalizing abortion per se and then holding the doctor accountable for the deed. You can stamp out abortion by defunding, taxation and regulation.

• Cut off all the public funding: not only funding for abortion itself, but funding to any abortion provider, even for their legitimate gyn services --- until they stop doing abortions.

• Make abortion un-insurable under any insurance plan.

• Prohibit advertising for abortion by radio, TV, internet, posters on the mass transit, or any other media.

• Tax, tax, tax, and

• regulate, regulate, regulate.

You might note that state-level regulation has already shut down hundreds of clinics over the past 5 years or so. The most effective measures are those which require abortion facilitries to meet the same standards as other ambulatory surgical centers; and which require abortionists to have admitting privileges at a hospital in the same county (or, typically, within 20 miles.)

I could add lots more, but you get the just of it. Abortion does;t have to be illegal if it's un-profitable and un-do-able. And meanwhile, we conduct the kind of education and culture-change that makes it un-thinkable.

[PJBankard]

What percentage of current abortions per year result in aggrieved women. And how does this stop women who don’t find aggrievance with abortion from continuing to get abortions.

We cannot simply apply the same pre-Roe attitude to a society that is fundamentally different from it. Yes it is a excellent reference point but we need to analyze what has changed. The reality is that there are those that will still seek and get abortions without aggrievance and continue the death cycle. You can’t negate all consequences to all women based on it being an injustice to those that got one and were aggrieved. Varying levels of punishment and prosecutional discretion can come into play. This is something that can done at the states.

To negate all responsibility of women who get an abortion is not pro-life.