Posted on 03/25/2016 4:57:10 PM PDT by jazusamo
President Obama was in Argentina on Thursday and made one of his patented 'American apologies' for actions that the Central Intelligence Agency took during Argentina's "dirty war."
In the 1970s, Soviet communism and socialism was spreading rapidly throughout South America and the CIA created Operation Condor to help local right-wing groups such as the Argentine Anticommunist Alliance repel the Russian influence. Politics aside, trying combat the spread of communism has never been easy and CIA agents did what was necessary to protect the United States.
But rest assured, Obama, who swept in to save the day, gave a most sincere apology to Argentina on behalf of the "early dark days" of the CIA and the United States.
"I believe we have a responsibility to confront the past with honesty and transparency,” Obama said. “A memorial like this speaks to the responsibilities that all of us have. We cannot forget the past, but when we find the courage to confront it, and we find the courage to change that past, that's when we build a better future."
"This park is a tribute to their memory but it's also a tribute to the bravery and tenacity of the parents and spouses, siblings and the children who love and remember them," Obama said during remarks at the memorial. "Today, we also commemorate those who fought side-by-side with Argentinians for human rights."
According to ABC News, Obama said the United States government would declassify U.S. military and intelligence documents related to the "dirty war," at the request of Macri and human rights groups.
I will leave it up to you to decide who Obama was referring to when he said, "commemorate those who fought side-by-side with Argentinians for human rights."
You nailed it.
He’s angling for a career at the UN. Anyone who thinks this ambitious little mama’s boy is going to retire at 51 is high.
Well said! Bambam wants the job of UN Secretary-General so bad he can taste it, he can further dump on successful Western nations and Israel in that position.
“... we find the courage to change that past,”
How do you do that? Time machine?
He didn't say a word about the tens of thousands murdered and 100s of thousands imprisoned by the Cuban communists.
King Opie loves to apologize for everyone except himself.
That one sentence affirms the evilness of the slime that 0bama is.
Excellent graphic.
Ain’t it the truth, in his pea brain he’s never done a thing he has to apologize for.
General René Schneider Chereau was one of the first people murdered back then. He was simply an honest traditional general who did not think the military should overthrow civilian government.
The CIA supplied sterile weapons for his assassination.
He was one of many decent people who were murdered, teachers, doctors, journalists, and others. The route of the ballot box was not tried. Constitutional processes were not tried.
Preventing a leftist Marxist from coming to power, by installing a fascist dictatorship is a disgusting idea. Obama sucks in every way, and his motivation is simply to hurt America. But Operation Condor is simply nothing for a conservative to be proud of.
Never said I agreed with the methods used in the Argentinian coup or even the Chilean coup (where a group of us journalists were chosen to meet with the new Chilean ambassador to the US, Mr. Heitmann. When he asked us, mainly conservative writers, what we would suggest the new government do, we unanimously said, “Stop the killings and torture”. He understood that we were against what was happening and despite him being new to national diplomacy, I’m sure he delivered our messages back to Pinochet.
There is no real difference in the Chilean junta mass murders, and the ones perpetrated by Castro and Che when they took over. Even the number of murders are somewhat roughly similar.
Hell, the junta even did book burnings in Chile.
Chilean Gen. Carlos Platts was killed in Argentina. Gen. Schneider was killed in Chile.
I was only writing originally about the military coup in Argentina.
I just wanted to clarify who was killed where.
If you are installing a fascist dictatorship, to prevent a socialist dictatorship, you do nothing good.
Stopping the killings is good. Did anyone suggest to hold an election?
And if you are conversant with that, you also know it was not merely combatants and terrorists that were rounded up and killed.
There were tons of labor union organizer types, professor and teacher types, writers, and other such. No excuses for that. If it was VC or Jihadi types, I get it. But they were killing political opponents. That just no good. George Washington never rounded up and murdered people he knew had tory sympathies..
And again, Obama did what he did to hurt America, but this was nothing America should be proud of what the CIA did down there.
I was speaking of Chile. I thought the idiot was down there apologizing too. And there were some classic generals, dedicated to a constitution down there who were murdered.
The bottom line is that down there, people on the street rarely associate the USA with freedom. That’s kind of sad.
But make no mistake. Though I think the CIA was a disgrace in the way it acted, (under George Bush) it was dead wrong for Obama to do what he did.
Thanks.
Wrong: The Chilean coup and junta is officially charged with a base of 3,500 killings and possibly up to 8,000 or so including “disappearances”. It all depends on what sources you look at.
Castro and Che (Che personally tortured and killed hundreds of Cuban citizens including former freedom fighters. He reportedly used a drill and/or pliers to torture his victims before he shot them in the head. My late friend’s wife lost her freedom fighter father and uncle to Castro’s firing squads.
For you Cuban history followers, Maria was the wife of the late US diplomat Paul Bethel, who helped Castro in the early days before finding out that he was helping a communist revolution. Paul was a friend of mine along with Prof. Herman Portell-Villa, a well known Cuban teacher with whom I worked at the American Security Council, Radio Show).
Nobody knows how many people Che killed in Angola or Bolivia or even Argentina.
The numbers of Chile never got close to “roughly similar” re how many victims there were of the Cuban Communists.
If you want to read how the Communists plotted to takeover Guatemala in the 50’s, from a great American correspondent down there, read Daniel James’ book (possibly entitled Red Coup in Guatemala but I’m not sure).
He got ahold of Communist Party internal documents and published them in his book. They told the real story, just as the White Paper on Chile did about Allende, his private army, his arming of communist youth groups, and Soviet Bloc secret arms aid and training for his Socialist Party (with photos).
The elected president of Guatemala Arbenz, was a Communist-controlled fool and puppet and was displaced by only a few hundred Guatemalans (led by Castillo Armas (spelling?), a few American advisors (and possibly Two Gun Puerrifoy).
I haven’t read that book in many decades but just Google Daniel James and Guatemala, and you will find all his books on Latin America. He might be in Wikipedia.com.
I used to have lunch with him in the McDowell Luncheon Group, one of the greatest assemblies of freedom-fighters in the world at the Emerald restaurant in DC.
That was in the late 60’s and early 70’s so I’m a little slow on recalling book titles from back then.
TO #34. The killing of non-communists or lesser activists is precisely what we objected to, as well as the executions in general. There was no real need for that as most of the guerrillas had been killed in the initial fighting though Allende’s private militia and his communist armed youth did constitute the bulk of the armed resistance to the coup.
As for the VC, when I was a journalist in So. Vietnam and Cambodia, I found captured No. Vietnamese officers and soldiers to be fonts of useful information (both historical and as it turns out, also military) because I asked them questions no one else had.
VC defectors were fascinating people and their stories about how they became disillusioned by the promises and lies of the VC cadre are worthy of many books. The US Govt (MACV and JUSPAO did just that in many brochures and reports, esp. Principal Reports).
I prefer to talk to a live but captured or defector enemy because a dead one can’t give you useful information.
However, on the battlefield, kill the bastards and take a few prisoners.
I hope the next President travels from country to country apologizing for the last 8 years.
Further comment on #34 re trying to hold elections. Allende fixed the votes in his presidential win, which I believe was only by less than PERCENT of the total votes.
If I recall correctly, the Un. of San Carlos or another Santiago university did a major analysis of the Allende election win and proved that he had cheated, either by ballot stuffing or preventing people from voting. It might be in the “White Book on Chile” that the Pinochet government issued about 1975.
While not necessarily the best source on the coup re voting, because it was issued by the junta, from what I saw the university analysis of the election fraud by Allende was well documents.
If anyone knows who did that study, please let me know.
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