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19 Facts About The Deindustrialization Of America That Will Make You Weep
Business Insider ^ | 9/27/10 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 03/20/2016 2:57:17 PM PDT by central_va

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To: semimojo
Communications and transportation advances have changed the world, and it isn't going back.

This is a point that is usually overlooked in these discussions.

61 posted on 03/20/2016 4:19:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: central_va
A 20% tariff is a 20% guaranteed profit margin for any company willing to repatriate production.

Only if they can make it for the same cost here.

62 posted on 03/20/2016 4:21:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DoodleDawg

What else are you going to say? LOL

This is really eatin at you fella.

Poor thing...


63 posted on 03/20/2016 4:21:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: central_va

Maybe someone should look up those Freepers who tell me that I am too ignorant and stupid to understand the long range benefits of free trade agreements. They will have all the answers.


64 posted on 03/20/2016 4:21:28 PM PDT by odawg
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To: central_va

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.


65 posted on 03/20/2016 4:21:30 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Alberta's Child; LS
And I can't even think of what would be produced by 19-20 million Americans earning $25/hour (make that at least $50/hour when you include all compensation) that would be affordable to anyone living a "middle class lifestyle" today.

The union labor cost per car made in the USA is 8%. I doubt if anything manufactured in the USA is going to need more labor than a car assembly line.

66 posted on 03/20/2016 4:22:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
A 20% tariff is a 20% guaranteed profit margin for any company willing to repatriate production. Greed will bring back manufacturing to the USA, just like greed made corporations seek the cheapest stoop labor from all over the world. Greed cuts both ways. Anyone making product would kill for a 20% profit margin.

Or they can continue making the goods overseas at cheap costs and pass the tariff on to the consumers.

67 posted on 03/20/2016 4:23:10 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: semimojo

Thanks for insulting the patriots that are on this thread who haven’t given up on America. /sarc


68 posted on 03/20/2016 4:24:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Or they can continue making the goods overseas at cheap costs and pass the tariff on to the consumers.

Greed says no to that but instead make it here for the windfall. Greed is good. I think Trump can come up with a tax incentive for upstarts to build high tech state of the art factories in the USA behind a 20% tariffs. Not a hard sell.

69 posted on 03/20/2016 4:26:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoughtyOne
This is really eatin at you fella.

Not really. It's wound up pretty much as I expected. Trumpster makes claim. I ask them to support them. They can't and instead go for attempted insults. Some things never change.

70 posted on 03/20/2016 4:26:33 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

What we are doing isn’t working. We need a new coach. I would rather have someone that made umteen deals in the real world then someone who argued 9 times before the Supreme Court.


71 posted on 03/20/2016 4:28:30 PM PDT by magua (baby)
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To: DoodleDawg

Nope, for decades now I’ve been dealing with misinformation folks who try to trash anything that has to do with us bringing jobs back here.

I had you number from the word go. You don’t think that’s possible.

It is.

You folks are fruitier than a fruitcake.

You get fixated because you can’t win when folks won’t waste their time with you, so you hurl insults and claim it’s the other person.

Well, I told you right off I wasn’t going to dialogue with you.

Mr. intelligence couldn’t grasp the concept.


72 posted on 03/20/2016 4:29:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: zzwhale

The rope used to make the nooses for traitors should always be of foreign manufacture.


73 posted on 03/20/2016 4:29:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Greed says no to that but instead make it here for the windfall.

In order for a 20% tariff to represent a guaranteed 20% profit then your scenario requires that the U.S. manufacturer be able to manufacture the item for exactly the same cost as manufacturing overseas and shipping here. If they could do that then why wouldn't they be manufacturing them here to begin with?

74 posted on 03/20/2016 4:30:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: LS
It’s gonna take a helluva lot more than marginal tax cuts and a few “trims” of regulation.

A corporate tax rate of 0%, a low flat income tax on everyone, sensible environmental regulation, massive welfare reduction, business-friendly rather than union-friendly laws, selling a lot of the western public lands to private ranchers and business.

There's 6 conservative steps we could take to make corporations want to stay here. Instead Trumpies think the liberal step of raising taxes through tariffs is the answer.

75 posted on 03/20/2016 4:30:48 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: central_va
Thanks for insulting the patriots that are on this thread who haven’t given up on America.

No insult intended, but no one is going to save America by thinking we're going back to a 1958 economy.

76 posted on 03/20/2016 4:31:16 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: central_va; LS

You picked a bad example. Auto manufacturing is one of the strongest manufacturing subsectors in the U.S. today. One big reason for it is that UAW workers are in decline, and most of the growth in the industry is in non-union plants in the South.


77 posted on 03/20/2016 4:32:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: DoughtyOne
Nope, for decades now I’ve been dealing with misinformation folks who try to trash anything that has to do with us bringing jobs back here.

If it's all been like this I can't imagine you've had any success in educating anyone.

78 posted on 03/20/2016 4:33:34 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

There’s a lot you can’t imagine. That’s why I don’t bother with folks like you.

You telegraphed your intent with your first contact.

How’s this working out for ya?


79 posted on 03/20/2016 4:34:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: LS
The traditional response from free traders has been that if we take care of tax rates here and reduce regulation, everything will be all right. Well, I can’t conceive of any possible tax cuts (within reason at all) or any degree of deregulation that would change a $2 an hour job in China into a $25 an hour job in America which is pretty much the minimum to live a middle class lifestyle today. Now, am I off? Am I being fair to the free trade advocates?

Labor is a small part of the price of a unit of production. Taxes and regulation dominate. If a business is paying a lot more for corporate taxes and regulation to produce in America, then some may be willing to go abroad even though the quality of the workforce is less. The reason we have higher wages is because we're better.

80 posted on 03/20/2016 4:35:08 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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