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Why Populism is Really Statism
Conservative Review ^ | 03/17/2016 | Mark Levin

Posted on 03/17/2016 6:47:15 PM PDT by MLL

On Thursday night, Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin took on the rising tide of "populist nationalism" with a history lesson.

Populism, Levin explained, is really just progressivism. The populist movement in America was the forerunner of the progressive movement, and both populism and progressivism share the same disdain for constitutionalism that conservatives reject.

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To: MLL

Apparently Levin — for all his vaunted learning — is unaware that more than one type of populism exists. And that .... each type is grounded in different core values.


141 posted on 03/17/2016 9:13:03 PM PDT by RetiredArmyMajor
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To: Publius22

Being an ideologue is what everyone should be. Being an ideologue means you actually have beliefs and principles and a moral foundation. That is the difference between a man and an animal.

Anyone can be a “patriot.” It’s a relativistic term. A patriot in Nazi Germany was immoral. A patriot in the U.S.A. in WW2 was a hero. Patriot doesn’t tell you anything without the context. Ideology tells you everything. Beliefs transcend a country or borders and are immutable. They are what a leader NEEDS to have to be good.


142 posted on 03/17/2016 9:14:45 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: JediJones

I probably should have said grabbing control back to themselves from the rich. Grabbing money from the rich is progressivism and Marxism,but taking control of ones destiny is populist conservatism. Thank you for the critique.


143 posted on 03/17/2016 9:18:35 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: RitaOK
If this is populism, we need an injection of it on a regular basis and for a very long time. (Which is why the VP choice matters.)

Here's a dictionary definition of populism...

At its root, populism is a belief in the power of regular people, and in their right to have control over their government rather than a small group of political insiders or a wealthy elite. The word populism comes from the Latin word for "people," populus. Definitions of populism.

And it sounds pretty good to me...

144 posted on 03/17/2016 9:18:40 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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To: lonestar67
how does Trump advance the values of Free Republic?

Trump is bigly on the sovereignty of the United States...He appears to be the only one...Everyone else is geared for the New World Order which demolishes the sovereignty of the U.S. which is a requirement for a Free Republic...

145 posted on 03/17/2016 9:26:25 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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To: Mensius

I don’t see that at all. Amazing innovation has happened in our economy in the last 30 years. We don’t seem to have any serious issues like inflation or the oil crisis in the ‘70s. 9/11 and the 2008 crash were the only real blips in the economy. And the second one was caused 100% by government intervention/social engineering in the housing market, backing unlimited bad loans, violating libertarian economics.

Our debt is bad, but it’s because of government spending. Other than those two abovementioned downturns, federal tax revenue has been rising continuously, even in adjusted dollars.

If the government monopoly and subsidizing of education was stopped, we would be doing even better, and people would be finding the right jobs for themselves easier.


146 posted on 03/17/2016 9:29:05 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: amihow

OK, but I still don’t believe in any philosophy that creates an us vs. them between the “rich” and whoever is the non-rich. Even the dictionary definition of populism attacks the wealthy. Conservative or libertarian ideology doesn’t send negative vibes out about the rich. It says that everybody should have the freedom to get rich. The idea of taking something back from the “rich” seems to imply that the rich have taken something from us to get where they are. And that just sounds like Sanders to me. The old idea that there’s a single pie and the rich are hoarding up a big part of it, which just isn’t how economics works.


147 posted on 03/17/2016 9:38:18 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: JediJones
Our economy is not growing. That's the problem. You can quote inflation or unemployment. The fact is that there are 94m people out of work. There are millions of your neighbors that have lost there pensions. There are very few winning now.

I agree with your take on education.

148 posted on 03/17/2016 9:38:29 PM PDT by Mensius
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To: Iscool

That is some dictionary. It sounds good to me too. I’m just wondering why Levin would want even want to denigrate populism as you have defined it.

Words are funny things. This “populism” used to be called patriotism, national security, sound economic policy.


149 posted on 03/17/2016 10:16:39 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: JediJones

Well you have another good point. But the rich and powerful often control others. Look at the elites now.

We are in revolt. We want our freedom to pursue our happiness in freedom from control by others.

The line is always thin between true populism and socialism and progressives. Thanks.


150 posted on 03/17/2016 10:27:50 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: JediJones

Well you have another good point. But the rich and powerful often control others. Look at the elites now.

We are in revolt. We want our freedom to pursue our happiness in freedom from control by others.

The line is always thin between true populism and socialism and progressives. Thanks.


151 posted on 03/17/2016 10:27:50 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: JediJones

Well you have another good point. But the rich and powerful often control others. Look at the elites now.

We are in revolt. We want our freedom to pursue our happiness in freedom from control by others.

The line is always thin between true populism and socialism and progressives. Thanks.


152 posted on 03/17/2016 10:27:50 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: JediJones

Well you have another good point. But the rich and powerful often control others. Look at the elites now.

We are in revolt. We want our freedom to pursue our happiness in freedom from control by others.

The line is always thin between true populism and socialism and progressives. Thanks.


153 posted on 03/17/2016 10:27:50 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: JediJones

Well you have another good point. But the rich and powerful often control others. Look at the elites now.

We are in revolt. We want our freedom to pursue our happiness in freedom from control by others.

The line is always thin between true populism and socialism and progressives. Thanks.


154 posted on 03/17/2016 10:27:51 PM PDT by amihow (l)
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To: MLL

Apparently Levin — for all his vaunted learning — is unaware that more than one type of populism exists. And that .... each type is grounded in different core values.


155 posted on 03/17/2016 10:29:34 PM PDT by RetiredArmyMajor
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To: Poison Pill; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Bastiat wrote of the 3 terrible ism, socialism, communism and protectionism, before Marx published his manifesto. So whether Marxist or not, protectionism has long been known to be like socialism and communism evil intrusions by governments into private decisions.


156 posted on 03/17/2016 10:46:48 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS; Poison Pill; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Who could have guessed that Hamilton and Madison and all of those worthies in the First Congress were into communism and socialism and stuff...

“The Tariff Act of 1789, was the first major Act passed in the United States under its present Constitution of 1789 and had two purposes as stated in Section I of the Act which reads as follows:

“Whereas it is necessary for that support of government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement and protection of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares and merchandise”


157 posted on 03/17/2016 11:04:04 PM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: John Valentine

My view is that the blue collar good income factory jobs have been run out of the US due to excessive government regulation. Alas the Dims have sold over regulation so well, it appears the GOP may nominate a candidate for present that ignores excess government regulation and blames the loss of blue collar jobs on trade agreements.


158 posted on 03/17/2016 11:13:22 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JediJones; Publius22
"Being an ideologue is what everyone should be. Being an ideologue means you actually have beliefs and principles and a moral foundation."

Interesting. Russell Kirk called conservatism the antithesis of ideology. But what would he know...

159 posted on 03/17/2016 11:13:58 PM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Pelham

When legislating rather than constitution writing there is always the temptation to venture into areas of self or in the case you mention regional interest.


160 posted on 03/17/2016 11:33:16 PM PDT by JLS
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